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    Re: Trump


    Quote Originally Posted by OreoGaborio View Post
    OMG, I KNOW, RIGHT?!?!?!

    What that chart says in a nut shell: Every...single... president... since 1889... has signed more executive orders per year in office than Obama. EVERY SINGLE ONE IN THE LAST 129 YEARS.

    And FFS, at least this one tried turning around the CORRUPT and completely screwed up health care system of this country.
    Oh so we get credit for trying now?

    That's cute.

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    Re: Trump

    Better than sittin around with your thumb up your ass, doing nothing about it and letting it get worse.

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    Re: Trump

    Well it's way better now isn't it. *rolls eyes*

    But no we can't repeal something that doesn't work...

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    Re: Trump

    yes, thanks for that. i was trying to keep it in current events. but if you want to discuss the executive orders that andrew jackson made then we can.
    corrupt or not, the govt isnt in the healthcare business nor should they be. health insurance isnt a right, human or otherwise. its a business. they can charge whatever they want. healthcare is an expensive business to run. no one is asking the govt to step in and mandate car prices, obamatrucks? why should i have to pay $60k+ for a new truck?
    all joking aside, obamacare shouldve been part of medicare and supplied to those that cant afford insurance and/or have jobs that dont provide insurance. then instead of congress continuing to cut spending on things like SS and medi- they start putting more into those programs to pay for it. we were already paying for these people to be on those programs anyway. i thought the idea was if we get everyone in america on health insurance that it will drive DOWN the prices. all i see is the healthcare business getting MORE money.

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    Re: Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by OreoGaborio View Post
    Every...single... president... since 1889...
    not william henry harrison

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    Re: Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by SVRACER01 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by OreoGaborio View Post
    Every...single... president... since 1889...
    not william henry harrison
    *checks link*

    *googles WHH*

    I wonder if that's because he died in 1841?

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    Re: Trump

    thats unirrelevant

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    Re: Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by OreoGaborio View Post
    And FFS, at least this one is trying to turn around the CORRUPT and completely screwed up health care system of this country.

    by not letting me see my local doctors and making me drive an hour each way instead

    I guess that depends on how you define corrupt

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    Re: Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by SVRACER01 View Post
    thats unirrelevant


    It's another "two slow to pass" moment

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    Re: Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by RandyO View Post
    by not letting me see my local doctors and making me drive an hour each way instead

    I guess that depends on how you define corrupt
    this is a valid point. i dont think frisbee is an obamacare hospital so youd have to go another 20 min or so to wentworth. last i heard there were something like 10 hospitals not in the network (which is almost half). 1 was concord. so if concord is your closest hospital and you have obamacare then you have to go to manchester. doesnt really seem like a big deal but it is if your someone on a fixed income who rides the bus or needs a ride.

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    Re: Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by RandyO View Post
    I guess that depends on how you define corrupt
    I guess that depends on whether or not you're capable of looking at the nation as a whole.

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    Re: Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by OreoGaborio View Post
    Every...single... president... since 1889...
    did you mean 1789 here? or did you intend to leave out 100 years worth of presidents?
    Quote Originally Posted by OreoGaborio View Post


    It's another "two slow to pass" moment
    *too

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    Re: Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by SVRACER01 View Post
    did you mean 1789 here? or did you intend to leave out 100 years worth of presidents?
    1889.

    Every president since Benjamin Harrison has signed more Executive Orders per year in office than Obama. Benjamin Harrison took office in 1889.

    Quote Originally Posted by SVRACER01 View Post
    *too
    It's how you would have said it

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    Re: Trump

    Let's see I had Blue Cross full coverage before the ACA with minor co-pays and a very nice small weekly deduction from my check for my Wife kid. Now I have a huge deductible before they even start paying anything my co-pays are thru the roof and eye dental and pharma co-pays are also higher. So it cost me a shitload more every month to take care of my family. Now we know what's in it I would like to get rid of it promptly.

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    Re: Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by OreoGaborio View Post
    I guess that depends on whether or not you're capable of looking at the big picture instead of just yourself.
    once the govt decided to vote themselves as doctors and get into the healthcare game the corruption continued.
    there are laws that prevent the govt from forcing you to purchase something. it falls under the commerce act.
    by fining you for not having the mandated insurance this violates constitutional rights. SCOTUS agreed and told congress to fuck off. then congress pulled a rabbit out of their hat and changed the wording. now its not a "fine". its a "tax" to offset your lack of contribution to the healthcare pool. since congress can regulate taxes, SCOTUS had no choice but to concede.
    its like a nickleback song. same tune but with different lyrics.

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    Re: Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by SVRACER01 View Post
    this is a valid point. i dont think frisbee is an obamacare hospital.
    as of Jan 2015 Frisbee has been in the Minuteman Insurance network, but I have to go to Derry to see a neurologist instead of the one I used to see in Dover, just renewed my policy, premiums went up nearly 50%

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    Re: Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by SVRACER01 View Post
    its like a nickleback song. same tune but with different lyrics.
    But you love that shit!

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    Re: Trump

    Pete only picks out nickel back out of all of that because he knows he's wrong

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    Re: Trump

    I only picked out Nickleback out of all that because I don't feel like getting pissed off at people that I otherwise like...

    usually......

    kind of......

    No, you all suck.

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    Re: Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by csmutty View Post
    Oh so we get credit for trying now?

    That's cute.
    What's cute is taking up arms if Obamacare passed. How did that work out, Smut?

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    i wonder what Trumpcare will be like

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    Re: Trump

    Ad Hominem attacks aside

    Washington and most state capitals have become a self priming money pump
    Politicians have "projects"or "regulations"that benefit specific groups or individuals and pay billions for low grade work
    The group or individual kicks back a "contribution" usually equal to 1%
    At the end of their careers the the campaign funds become the property of the retiring politician

    Only trump can be elected without joining this crony machine.

    I know Democrats and probably Republicans too swear allegiance to their party and not the citizens of the USA

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    Racism, bigotry and uneducated intentionally misleading statements presented as facts aside, he is a beacon of hope for everything that is wrong with America.

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    Re: Trump

    We need to get to Universal Health Care. The ACA was a step in the right direction. But it didn't eliminate the reality of many fingers in delivery chain between the provider and the patient....fingers that add no value to outcomes.

    The ACA is imperfect. But the GOP's stated goal to dismantle without offering a single idea of the replacement is idiotic...

    Should we follow suit of the very few (sarcasm) countries that have adopted some form of providing healthcare to their citizens?

    Nah...lets continue on the path of highest costs and questionable outcomes....

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