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    Re: 2018 supercross


    I thought it was exciting to watch Bubba, RV, CR, And even a handful of non contenders a few years back. It all unraveled when Bubba kinda spun his life out.

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    Re: 2018 supercross

    Agreed, back when on any given week there were two or three guys that could battle for the podium and actually have good races it was more fun to watch. The recent formula of the podium being pretty much set and the only battles worth watching happening further back in the field has gotten a bit tiresome for me.

    Not sure if it is that there is a dominant bike/team or certain riders taking it to a different level with fitness/preparation but having the same people running away with the wins all the time isn't too exciting. I would love to see battles throughout the race back and forth only to be decided in the final lap or two because someone makes a mistake pushing to get in front of the next guy.

    The other issue that is hurting the sport, no pun intended, is when the premier riders are getting hurt badly in practice/preparation for the races or in the races themselves due to the practice tracks and the actual race tracks being so difficult. If there are only a handful of riders that are capable of riding at the pace needed to win and 3 out of the 5 are injured somehow that makes for a boring show.

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    Didn't seem that exciting. I like Roczen and Musquin but they just don't excite me. With Anderson, Wilson, Barcia, and Tomac maybe we will see some different winners on different nights but I think Musquin will be the man to beat.

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    Re: 2018 supercross

    I still go back to the 80s when any of four team Honda riders, a couple Yamaha riders, Barnett and Ward could be the winner on any given night. But time and music move on.

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    Re: 2018 supercross

    This made me laugh out loud...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_E_D View Post
    This made me laugh out loud...
    holy shit

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    Quote Originally Posted by backinthesaddle View Post
    I still go back to the 80s when any of four team Honda riders, a couple Yamaha riders, Barnett and Ward could be the winner on any given night. But time and music move on.
    Too Hip / Flying Freckle battles are my reminiscence

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    Re: 2018 supercross

    What am I missing? The start to win ratio?

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    I cant get into outdoor. Maybe its because everyone knows the track. Its the same track every time.
    In SX they get what? Two 15min practices and 15min of qualifying? On a new track theyve never seen. So as the night goes on you can see people still trying new things as they continue to learn the track.

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    no replay of Anderson’s rocket launch?? that shit was sick

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    Quote Originally Posted by SVRACER01 View Post
    I cant get into outdoor. Maybe its because everyone knows the track. Its the same track every time.
    In SX they get what? Two 15min practices and 15min of qualifying? On a new track theyve never seen. So as the night goes on you can see people still trying new things as they continue to learn the track.
    I think some of the top guys have a version built of the track or at least some sections that they practice on in advance.

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    All the top guys have the huge advantage of “media and tire testing days” where they get to ride the layout a ton. This happens a couple days before race day, when all the privateers get a few minutes to figure it out...this is true both indoors and outdoors.

    Once I snuck into the tire testing day a couple days before the southwick National way back when guy cooper was competing for the championship late on the season for Suzuki when (recently retired) Bob Hannah was team manager...some guy without numbers on his jersey or Suzuki bike was dicing with cooper, and they ended up tangling up and cooper got hurt and it ended his chances at the championship. The circumstances of the injury were never reported in the media but I saw it happen...the other rider? Hannah LMAO

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    so YOU'RE Gary Hannah!

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    Quote Originally Posted by typeone View Post
    so YOU'RE Gary Hannah!
    I don’t get it but it’d be pretty cool to have that maniac as your dad!

    Maybe?

    I dunno, it might be hell. Love him as a rider though

    (I snuck in to spectate, not on the damn track!!!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imbeek View Post
    I don’t get it but it’d be pretty cool to have that maniac as your dad!

    Maybe?

    I dunno, it might be hell. Love him as a rider though

    (I snuck in to spectate, not on the damn track!!!)
    hahaa, it was a joke sorry, man, cracked me up. it sounded like you snuck on to ride the track ... then Cooper is mysteriously gonzo.

    we used to call Guy Cooper "Sky Goober", i cant remember why but i think it was the way Larry Huffman annonced his name one time.

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    I remember another year, going into the Southwick McDonalds on the morning of the National, and seeing Guy Cooper eating at McD’s for his race day breakfast as a factory rider. My, how things have changed; if he was going to one of the fitness factories now (like Alden Baker’s or others) the trainers would flip out if he ate McD’s midweek!

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    didn't JoJo Keller make some famous remark about cheeseburgers being his training?

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    Quote Originally Posted by typeone View Post
    didn't JoJo Keller make some famous remark about cheeseburgers being his training?
    Probably I remember one time he rode a mountain bike from Plymouth to the Berkshires the day before an NESC race at Charlmont ski area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by backinthesaddle View Post
    Probably I remember one time he rode a mountain bike from Plymouth to the Berkshires the day before an NESC race at Charlmont ski area.
    no shit. hahaa. nuts!

    Southwick + McDonalds have a special place in my heart ... after that very first Stimilon we attended i was so fucking wiped i stood at the counter at the McD on the pike unable to figure out what i was supposed to do. hahaaa. body and mind completely BURNT. i got lost off of 291 before that. (i might of had a beer after 'racing')

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    A beast for sure. Gotta be a beast for a guy like Hannah to like him. I remember him and Kees Van Der Veen battling in the florida AMA winter series at a sand track, Cocoa Beach I think. A guy from sandy southwick and a Dutch sand master out in front of everyone.



    Stole this off Vital MX:

    hellion wrote:

    I used to ride for Cycle Design in the eighties when they had a super powerhouse team here in New England. JoJo, David Rudnicki, Greg Mayo, Wemyss Scott, Alan Wickstrand, Jimmy Meenan and myself made up their riders in the NESC expert classes. The team owner had a thing for a little while where he liked us to come to the shop and run together. JoJo came, but never went out on the runs. He'd hang out with the tuner, Al Doane, cracking jokes and lighting off m80's inside the service bay!
    No matter, come Sunday he'd still be the man to beat, and most often no one did. I even remember him smoking a cig on the walk to the starting line in Waterboro one day, and then winning the moto. Was it a psyche out strategy or just being funny? I don't know. But being involved with racing at that time was very cool, and JoJo was a big part of that.

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    Re: 2018 supercross

    “Hellion” who wrote that is local to me and still rides woods all the time, including sundays with the crew next door. Extremely talented rider (as is anyone who ever won an NESC expert chsmpionship, but especially during the many years when they were the only mx organization around here)

    MX could sure use some riders like Hannah and Jojo today!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imbeek View Post
    “Hellion” who wrote that is local to me and still rides woods all the time, including sundays with the crew next door. Extremely talented rider (as is anyone who ever won an NESC expert chsmpionship, but especially during the many years when they were the only mx organization around here)

    MX could sure use some riders like Hannah and Jojo today!
    That's cool. Yeah those 1980's NESC A (expert class at the time) riders were a fast bunch and then bang out comes Dowd and Henry.

    Love watching old Hannah races and interviews.

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    Quote Originally Posted by backinthesaddle View Post
    I think some of the top guys have a version built of the track or at least some sections that they practice on in advance.
    i assume youre referring to outdoor since SX tracks arent usually done until the day before the race

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    Re: 2018 supercross

    A lot of the riders have Supercross tracks where they train that if a track map has been shared for an upcoming event they can adjust their home track so that they are riding very similar obstacles if not the same layout as the track they will riding the next weekend.

    The other thing about the SX tracks is the obstacles are similar enough from track to track that as long as their training facilities have AMA grade whoops, rhythm sections, triples, gator backs etc. they know how to rip the obstacle and then the race weekend is about figuring out how to link them together smoothly for a fast lap time

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    i think thats my point. linking them together to get the fastest and most consistent times is the hard part. the obstacles are virtually the same.
    just like riding a new road course, corners are pretty similar, its linking them together.

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