New dirt rider advice

[number9]

If it's still stock, woods bikes have a headlight and kickstand. Has a generating coil to run lights and possibly charge a battery if so equipped. Electric start a good possibility.
Heavier flywheel for less stalling. Quieter exhaust. Engine tuned for torque and smoothness. Softer springs. Possibly more stable geometry. Lower first gear and taller top gear.
In Yamaha woods is WR vs YZ for MX.
Yeah, like above. Too slow to post.

Also, converting an MX bike to a woods bike costs money. You'll likely want a real bash plate, kickstand, bark busters/hand guards, a headlight, maybe a brake light an some other stuff.

I started with a woods bike ('05 KTM 300 EXC) and I'll probably end up buying an MX bike as well at the end of the season.

[tls25rs]

I haven't heard much about them lately but MX101 at New England Dragway used to have a separate kids track as well for letting your daughter ride without being intimidated. Might be worth checking if they have a website with more info.

[breakdirt916]

doesn't crow hill have a noobie track?

IIRC J-ro used to lap around there while A13x roosted me around the main track on his 4t as I spun a lap on an RM125 with no rear brakes and an excessive amount of explosive power out of the EG 144 stroker...I've had a '96 CR125, '00 YZ250, '03 YZ450F, '02 YZ426F, '94 YZ250 and that ported EG 144 mill had one hell of a hit!

[nhbubba]

I totally forgot about the lighting coil. Another obstacle to making an MX model an enduro. Meanwhile you can just live with the extra weight on the enduro when riding MX. Maxim/JC nailed it in his posts. Right tool for the job.

I was going to mention MX101. I've not been, but it's there.

Boxshop is not an MX course. Not really appropriate for what he's after, I think.

KTM speak: EXC generally has full lighting kit and is 50 state legal. It's their dual-sport except their dual-sports are very high performance and do very well as enduros unlike the japanese dual-sports (which are heavy, not very high quality). The XC-W is the true enduro. Easy to plate in most states, but needs extra lights, horn, etc to be fully legal in most locales. XC is more hardcore, narrower transmission (hence no -W). There are usually differences in suspension, etc. The SX is the full MX offering; 19" rear wheel, smaller tank, etc. As mentioned, -F usually denotes four stroke. But it is usually omitted on the larger 4-strokes, ie the 500 EXC/XC-W.

Then there's the "super enduro" or "SE" big bikes. Ie the ridiculous (ridiculously tasty!) 950SE. But those are totally not the droids you're looking for.

By the way I believe Yamahas newer "enduro" offering is the YZ***FX. I hear they are great. But it breaks the YZ/WR naming convention mentioned here.

[breakdirt916]

A milder kick-only 4t like an old XR250 is probably somewhere in between.

wait!

this bike (after you get to TDC) is very easy to kick over, but when hot can sometimes be borderline impossible to start!!!

[number9]

doesn't crow hill have a noobie track?

IIRC J-ro used to lap around there while A13x roosted me around the main track on his 4t as I spun a lap on an RM125 with no rear brakes and an excessive amount of explosive power out of the EG 144 stroker...I've had a '96 CR125, '00 YZ250, '03 YZ450F, '02 YZ426F, '94 YZ250 and that ported EG 144 mill had one hell of a hit!

There's a small beginner track, but it's kids-only. No big bikes allowed. That said, apart from the big (downhill) jump near the start/finish line, I think Crow Hill is pretty good for beginners.

And I say that as a beginner who crashed on the first corner of his first lap there, and every lap afterwards that day

I totally forgot about the lighting coil. Another obstacle to making an MX model an enduro. Meanwhile you can just live with the extra weight on the enduro when riding MX. Maxim/JC nailed it in his posts. Right tool for the job.

I was going to mention MX101. I've not been, but it's there.

Boxshop is not an MX course. Not really appropriate for what he's after, I think.

I haven't ridden Boxshop, so thanks for clarifying!

[breakdirt916]

ya just for OP's daughter

[Paul_E_D]

WVRC family fun day is the best idea in here yet. I can't believe how much fun it is to ride on basically flat dirt. Obviously, you don't learn much about overcoming obstacles, but you do learn an amazing amount about the fundamentals of traction and cornering in a VERY low risk environment. I say that despite the fact that I did injure a guy there last time out...

[nhbubba]

Now I'm curious. Compare/contrast to ice? I always figured it was going to be similar enough.
I'm 110% in for the next time this gaggle heads out there, come hell or high water. I think I even have a toy to play with now.

[Paul_E_D]

Your question just made me realize why i like it a little better than ice. There is no equivalent of a marcel tire!!! No cheating. It the track is slick, it is slick fo everyone. If it's grippy, true for everyone.

[Paul_E_D]

It is obviously similar in technique, but the traction and surface qualities are different.

[Paul_E_D]

I would say it's definitely tougher to do the huge leaned over slides that are so easy in ice.

[nhbubba]

No cheating.

Never, ever let anyone tell you that you are not competitive!

It seems like it would be more wear and tear. That hot shoe seems like a real must have. Must wreck boots without.

[Paul_E_D]

I have never used a shoe so I can't say. But I assume it makes it a little more like ice. What I can say is my awesome Sidis are waayyyy to frickin heavy. I might roll in my old roadrace boots next time.

It doesn't wreck boots because you can't put your foot down. It will go straight behind you over and over.

[nhbubba]

Odd.

[Paul_E_D]

The best boots for this sport are the 50 dollar craptastic MX boots. They aren't weighed down with all that protection and heavy soles, etc.

I meant you can't put your foot down without the steel shoe!

[bstnsboy]

This popped up on CL today. Looks clean.1994 Kawasaki KDX200 KDX 200 NICE!

[black]

This popped up on CL today. Looks clean.1994 Kawasaki KDX200 KDX 200 NICE!

funny enough i have 1993kdx200 for $950 for sale

[Paul_E_D]

This popped up on CL today. Looks clean.1994 Kawasaki KDX200 KDX 200 NICE!

That's sorta the coveted one for the USD forks. Was the only year they did that

I had a 91 that I rebuilt like new and sold for 950. I regret that.

[black]

That's sorta the coveted one for the USD forks. Was the only year they did that

actually mine is a 93 also has the USD 93 and 94 had them

[Jewcati]

This popped up on CL today. Looks clean.1994 Kawasaki KDX200 KDX 200 NICE!

That looks pretty sweet


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[Jewcati]

funny enough i have 1993kdx200 for $950 for sale

Hey. If you can send me the details of that bike, pm me.

Thanks


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[Jewcati]

03 Ktm 450 EXC , Street Legal Dual Sport , New Graphics , New Battery


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[Jewcati]

What about this one?


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[Jewcati]

2005 KTM 250 EXC


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