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    Re: Let's get dirty...check here for rides.


    Quote Originally Posted by number9 View Post
    So I did the JDay Hobbit Sprint Enduro.. kind of. I thought I would be able to manage it.

    I, uhh, thought wrong.
    Bummer. Sorry if I gave you bad advice (to try it), it wasn't intentional. Most woods racers around here are kinda sado masochists, as you are finding out. If they complain, it's because stuff is too easy, and believe it or not, those sprint enduros are on the forgiving end of the scale, especially in terms of endurance required. At least you know what to expect for next time, I guess? (And at least there aren't knobby marks across your back?)

    And I should add...lots of New England woods riding is just too grueling for me, and a lot of others, too. It's supposed to kick the crap out of you (LOL). That's why I prefer moto, even southwick! The last JDAY GP I did tortured me but I knew what I was in for ahead of time and I'm getting old, so there was no surprise to it.

    Anyway, it'll be interesting if and when you give it another shot; some day you might say it was easier than expected, now that you know a little bit about what's "in there"

    Next step: spectate a GP. Watch and learn how the fast guys handle stuff like the extreme section or harder sections of the single track. Pretty much just copy what this guy does http://jdayoffroad.com/2017/2016-j-d...ohnny-girroir/

    (He's from southwick, and sadly his dad hasn't seen any of his recent success as he passed away just after mountain biking with a some of my friends a few years ago. Dad was a good woods racer too, owned an excavation company, and groomed the track at southwick. Hence the "dozer memorial GP" that JDAY runs every year.)

    Anyway, now that you've experienced first hand what it's like, watching those top dudes ride woods is every bit as amazing as watching pros ride supercross, IMO. I'm actually heading up to spectate the Hard Knox hare scramble in a little while.

    Hopefully this weekend doesn't discourage you, but makes you stronger. Congratulations and Good on ya for having the desire and balls to jump in and try it!

    PS: my daughter just returned from almost three years in Australia, now I'm hearing "Uni" this and "Ya Reckon?" that, all over the place (LOL)

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    Re: Let's get dirty...check here for rides.

    Quote Originally Posted by loudbeard View Post
    In theory it's doable for me as well. My trail system is looking shabby AF but I can probably get it together. I assume we're talking November 11th...because October is a Wednesday.

    This also assumes I haven't had my shoulder surgery yet. MRI is this week, not sure how quickly it will get scheduled after that. Of course, that won't stop me from smoking meats.
    shoulder surgery, yuk. bummer to hear

    posts were random earlier, here's the clarification ... Nov 11th is the NETRA Jack Frost Fun Run at HVD, low key, loops for all skill levels (even kids/wives/GFs), chili cookoff, nice chilly temps and great trails ... BUT, some group ride 'n chill before that at any ride spot would be a good time

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    Hell Ya! I can ride until kickoff.
    Quote Originally Posted by number9 View Post
    Clinton, are you still doing HVD tomorrow?
    had fun today, great to see you guys, been a while ... Chris, here is one of the bar end mount types i was talking about: BRP Threaded Bar End Instert


    oh, and TUbliss rules. wow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imbeek View Post
    Bummer. Sorry if I gave you bad advice (to try it), it wasn't intentional. Most woods racers around here are kinda sado masochists, as you are finding out. If they complain, it's because stuff is too easy, and believe it or not, those sprint enduros are on the forgiving end of the scale, especially in terms of endurance required. At least you know what to expect for next time, I guess? (And at least there aren't knobby marks across your back?)
    I thought I replied to this, but I guess not! No, not at all, the advice was good. Unless you had have said "zomg you're gonna fucking die", I probably would have tried it anyway. And yeah, I didn't get hurt or destroy the bike, so all in all it was a good day. The scenery was also fantastic on the drive there..

    And I should add...lots of New England woods riding is just too grueling for me, and a lot of others, too. It's supposed to kick the crap out of you (LOL). That's why I prefer moto, even southwick! The last JDAY GP I did tortured me but I knew what I was in for ahead of time and I'm getting old, so there was no surprise to it.

    Anyway, it'll be interesting if and when you give it another shot; some day you might say it was easier than expected, now that you know a little bit about what's "in there"
    I would be interested in trying it on a lighter, less powerful bike, but that's for another day.

    Next step: spectate a GP. Watch and learn how the fast guys handle stuff like the extreme section or harder sections of the single track. Pretty much just copy what this guy does http://jdayoffroad.com/2017/2016-j-d...ohnny-girroir/

    (He's from southwick, and sadly his dad hasn't seen any of his recent success as he passed away just after mountain biking with a some of my friends a few years ago. Dad was a good woods racer too, owned an excavation company, and groomed the track at southwick. Hence the "dozer memorial GP" that JDAY runs every year.)

    Anyway, now that you've experienced first hand what it's like, watching those top dudes ride woods is every bit as amazing as watching pros ride supercross, IMO. I'm actually heading up to spectate the Hard Knox hare scramble in a little while.
    I honestly never thought about spectating, as I figured they weren't really setup for that with vantage points and whatnot. I do follow Girroir on Instagram though

    Hopefully this weekend doesn't discourage you, but makes you stronger. Congratulations and Good on ya for having the desire and balls to jump in and try it!

    PS: my daughter just returned from almost three years in Australia, now I'm hearing "Uni" this and "Ya Reckon?" that, all over the place (LOL)
    I'm glad she's keeping it PG.. let me know if you want me to hook you up with some good Aussie TV shows or movies to give to her. There is a fantastic Australian bakery/restaurant in East Boston as well!

    Quote Originally Posted by typeone View Post
    had fun today, great to see you guys, been a while ... Chris, here is one of the bar end mount types i was talking about: BRP Threaded Bar End Instert
    Thanks! I'll check them out.

    Is anyone riding this Saturday? I'll be in NH so the only real options would be Hopkinton-Everett on the KTM. There's a race at NHMX, I guess I could try that on the Honda..

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    Re: Let's get dirty...check here for rides.

    Jday is very spectator friendly. That's part of the design, making the whole GP course accessible for spectators, vs the traditional New England off-road race that's 5+miles a lap with only a few spectator points.
    The plus side is it's fun (in certain respects) and the drawback is the course gets tore to bits real fast.

    I went and rode the Leonard's Loop course last night (in the rain) to "help" burn it in for Sunday.
    This course covers the full spectrum of what we have here. There are a couple rock gardens, short ones, that'll have some people asking why they do this to themselves.

    To beek's point about woods riders being masochists, I can't disagree. It's supposed to be challenging, physically and mentally. Not just in the sense that you have to force yourself to push, because it's also pretty fun, but that you constantly have to be aware and picking lines, and aware that what you saw last lap (or time through a certain trail) might not be there this time. It's very dynamic.
    TBH if I wanted consistency and meticulous detail I'd still be turning laps at any piece of pavement and working on the very fine points of this or that. To be even more honest, I wish I had the time and money to do both.

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    Track preview for Sunday's mattapoisett scramble:


    That's a 99 380exc chugging along, before anybody asks. Bike sounds sweet on the lug, tiptoeing around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by number9 View Post
    I would be interested in trying it on a lighter, less powerful bike, but that's for another day.
    Going slow is brutal no matter what you're riding. It requires so much more work instead of cruising over everything. And it snowballs quickly when you're outta shape or tired.
    Quote Originally Posted by Chippertheripper View Post
    Jday is very spectator friendly. That's part of the design, making the whole GP course accessible for spectators, vs the traditional New England off-road race that's 5+miles a lap with only a few spectator points.
    The plus side is it's fun (in certain respects) and the drawback is the course gets tore to bits real fast.

    I went and rode the Leonard's Loop course last night (in the rain) to "help" burn it in for Sunday.
    This course covers the full spectrum of what we have here. There are a couple rock gardens, short ones, that'll have some people asking why they do this to themselves.

    To beek's point about woods riders being masochists, I can't disagree. It's supposed to be challenging, physically and mentally. Not just in the sense that you have to force yourself to push, because it's also pretty fun, but that you constantly have to be aware and picking lines, and aware that what you saw last lap (or time through a certain trail) might not be there this time. It's very dynamic.
    TBH if I wanted consistency and meticulous detail I'd still be turning laps at any piece of pavement and working on the very fine points of this or that. To be even more honest, I wish I had the time and money to do both.
    That's the best part. The challenge in finding the line through the chop. I dunno if I'd use the word masochist since I hate when you're struggling to get the bike over a rock you fucked up on and the heart rate goes through the roof. I love a good rock garden though.

    I'm registered for the Crow Hill Jday this Sunday - but after hearing the description of leonard's loop, kinda wishing I was heading that direction instead. I'll have to check it out next year.

    I spectated this event earlier this year, and there's bleacher seating overlooking a good part of the moto course by the starting line. Then the extreme section was a short walk away and easy to find a spot to watch. When a class starts, watch which direction some of the crowd starts migrating after they leave the starting line as they're probably going somewhere good.

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    Excellent rock garden practice here in Rehoboth

    MRI is on Tuesday, follow up with the ortho is a week after that. I'd be willing to bet I can get a good portion of the fall season in before they slice me open. This is me finally deciding to get my shoulder fixed after turning myself into a lawn dart going into turn 1 August 2015.

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    I zoned out and forgot to order replacement bolts for the KTM handguards, so... Honda it is.

    I think I might continue my headfirst jump into racing and do NEMX @ NHMX on Saturday. Anyone wanna join?

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