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    Re: Ice Ice baby

    Quote Originally Posted by loudbeard View Post
    So what’s the go to bidirectional ice tire?
    If you want to ride on not the cleanest ice, have fun and still slide a little without being able to race anywhere that requires AMA legal screws
    FRP Ice riding/racing | Tires Studded left & right turn Canadian style - Fredette Racing Products Beecher, IL (708) 946-0999

    If you might want to try racing where AMA screws are required
    Motorcycle ice tires FRP studded Left Right turn. for sale in Beecher, IL | Fredette Racing Products (708) 946-0999

    If you want to ride on pretty much anything and don't care about racing legality
    Ice tires | marcelfournier.ca

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    Re: Ice Ice baby

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_E_D View Post
    My favorites are fredette wit canadien screws in motoz tires.
    Seconded. Just call him and order the tires pre-built. Mount on spare wheels you never intend to use for anything else ever again and be happy. Use the most ULTRA heavy duty tubes you can find. Assemble with great care. Double, triple, quadruple check for screws poking through the inner liner.

    I have Marcel Fournier screws on my WR450. They are unreal. But then they are also difficult to actually slide. You have to really cook to get the bike to rock'n roll. Otherwise it's like road race rubber. You'll see guys dragging knee on these screws.

    That's cool and all, but I still prefer the Fredette canadians on my 200. 2x the fun at 1/2 the speed. I do worry the 450 might be more prone to tearing screws. But on the 200 it's very sweet. Can get both ends in a nice, predictable slide. And the tires are still fun when the ice gets munched up.

    The AMAs I've sampled go too far the other way. Fun on clean ice, but less so after just a few laps. Rec riding you're subject to the good will of the guy with the plow and he wants to ride too. Means a lot of chips and crap on the ice. AMAs don't do this well. Soon you'll just be paddling.



    Quote Originally Posted by breakdirt916 View Post
    Also...how the F do these fit?

    I checked the YZ 19" against the swingarm and barely saw 1/4-1/2" from the swingarm...I am planning on running an 18" WR rim with a 45 tooth sprocket so get some chain slack to slide the wheel back a bit...also I was planning tapcon screws for trail/snow...no ponds
    I have a 19" with screws (Marcels no less) on my WR450. It fits, barely. I have to get the gearing and chain length just so or it will chooch the swingarm. It has already chooched the plastic mud flap. I think it's a special wide 19 as well. I have another 19 woody tried to get the tire mounted on and failed. The 19 that works looks old to me. I'm not even sure it's a stock YZ part. When I redid the spokes (last year?) I had to use a Tusk kit.

    Although the YZ swingarm may be longer/wider?! Maybe.

    Fitting these tires is a bitch.

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    Re: Ice Ice baby

    Ok then! I just picked up a crf450r that’s in woods trim. She’ll be getting the motard treatment this spring, but I’m going to try and get her up for some ice this winter. Bike hasn’t run in 8 years so it needs all new fluids and probably a top end, otherwise very clean.


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    Re: Ice Ice baby

    Quote Originally Posted by loudbeard View Post
    Ok then! I just picked up a crf450r that’s in woods trim. She’ll be getting the motard treatment this spring, but I’m going to try and get her up for some ice this winter. Bike hasn’t run in 8 years so it needs all new fluids and probably a top end, otherwise very clean.


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    If mounting the tires yourself, heat the carcasses good, keep the wraps on, use lots of lube and plenty of spoons. Don't force them. Breaking a bead would really hurt the wallet

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    Re: Ice Ice baby

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_E_D View Post
    If mounting the tires yourself, heat the carcasses good, keep the wraps on, use lots of lube and plenty of spoons. Don't force them. Breaking a bead would really hurt the wallet

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    If I ha e any hope of riding it this winter, I believe I’m going to need to just drop it off at Adrenaline and let Justin do it. No heat in my barn and no time to do it. I’ll have them mount the tires too, some things I don’t need to experience to know they suck.


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    Re: Ice Ice baby

    Bill Rowe also does tires.

    https://m.facebook.com/RoweTire/

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    Re: Ice Ice baby

    Quote Originally Posted by csmutty View Post
    Bill Rowe also does tires.

    Rowe Tire
    Look similar to FRP in every way.

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    Re: Ice Ice baby

    Sooo, the weather has been weird this January, but it has made for some sick ice conditions. My 3 year old Fredette's are still doin the business. Best money spent is on good tires.

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    Re: Ice Ice baby

    Woot!

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    Re: Ice Ice baby

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_E_D View Post
    Woot!
    sick shot!

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    Re: Ice Ice baby

    Thanks. It's amazing what you can pull out of a gopro vid.

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    Re: Ice Ice baby

    Anyone else been riding ice this year? I know you have. Post up some pics. This is by far the most fun way to train in the off season. It's soooo different, and yet, the fundamentals you work on apply to ALL disciplines.

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    Re: Ice Ice baby

    I haven't been out once yet.

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    Re: Ice Ice baby

    Me either. In my life (with real ice tires, done it with frictions)

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    Re: Ice Ice baby

    We had a dude ride friction spikes with us the other day. They seemed to work better than I expected.

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    Re: Ice Ice baby

    When I did ride them, it was some of the most fun I’ve ever had on a motorcycle

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    Re: Ice Ice baby

    We made a pretty sick track on one of my ponds, tho the safe ice was short lived here. I’m hopeful the extended forecast stays true, and we will be riding again in a week or so.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=66s&v=B2PoLtCdIeg

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    Re: Ice Ice baby

    Nice! What would happen if you crashed into the grassy areas? Fall in?

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    Re: Ice Ice baby

    No, you wouldn’t fall in, it was solid ice everywhere when we rode it. The grass is usually under water this time of year, but the dam is leaking and the beavers have moved on.

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    Re: Ice Ice baby

    Quote Originally Posted by R7 View Post
    No, you wouldn’t fall in, it was solid ice everywhere when we rode it. The grass is usually under water this time of year, but the dam is leaking and the beavers have moved on.
    Ah. Cool. Did anyone test it? Grassy shallows trap air and the mud can warm first making pockets of wet goo.

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    Re: Ice Ice baby

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_E_D View Post
    Ah. Cool. Did anyone test it? Grassy shallows trap air and the mud can warm first making pockets of wet goo.

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    Yes, I was all over it with the quad a week prior. It froze thick and fast before any real snow, so there wasn’t a chance to create air pockets. It doesn’t look it, but the pond is about 8’ deep average, was surprised by the depth when I went kayaking last summer.

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    Rode snow! I may have to find some ice but I am not a hundred percent committed towards tires unless I use them more than once

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    Re: Ice Ice baby

    Quote Originally Posted by breakdirt916 View Post
    Rode snow! I may have to find some ice but I am not a hundred percent committed towards tires unless I use them more than once
    Ice in socal???

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    Re: Ice Ice baby

    yup lakes and ponds in the elevation...went on one last year wishing I brought a spike bike

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    Re: Ice Ice baby

    Full day on the ice yesterday. We earn our turns when there is snow as we don't have a plow.

    Finally getting comfy swapping from big bike to little bike without feeling totally awkward. Doing Bootcamp in november has definitely helped me push to the next level. Fun to see some progress.

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