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I'm dumb. Y'all know it. So make me be less dumb. KDX? CRF? KTM?

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    Re: I'm dumb. Y'all know it. So make me be less dumb. KDX? CRF? KTM?


    Ha! Yes, yes you do!
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    Well I'm convinced, but it'll be a while. In the meantime, I'm going to try to setup an enduro training course in the yard. I sure do have enough rocks, logs, hills and mud.

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    Re: I'm dumb. Y'all know it. So make me be less dumb. KDX? CRF? KTM?

    I'm looking forward to going sloooooow and falling down a shit ton.

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    Re: I'm dumb. Y'all know it. So make me be less dumb. KDX? CRF? KTM?

    LOL, If I had a place like yours, I'd have a trials bike in the kit.

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    Re: I'm dumb. Y'all know it. So make me be less dumb. KDX? CRF? KTM?

    Quote Originally Posted by number9 View Post
    If you're doing MX, I don't think you need folding levers. If you're doing woods riding, you do.
    If you have bar guards, that will reduce the chances of breakage dramatically. There's rare opportunity for a bendy lever with a guard, but I wouldn't worry about it, especially with the other items he's got on the to-do list. Low priority. If anything, wait for a sale.

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    Re: I'm dumb. Y'all know it. So make me be less dumb. KDX? CRF? KTM?

    I put together something in the back yard early last fall. I pulled down two fat pines for it. The only problem I have is that the lot is pretty flat and there isn't much to it without the trees. I want to practice more trials type tricks. In the meantime I just burned in a loop slaloming through the saplings, into the log piles and romping over an old compost pile. It's awesome.

    Which reminds me; probably time to dump the ice wheels and convert the fleet to summer mode.

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    Re: I'm dumb. Y'all know it. So make me be less dumb. KDX? CRF? KTM?

    Quote Originally Posted by aldend123 View Post
    If you have bar guards, that will reduce the chances of breakage dramatically. There's rare opportunity for a bendy lever with a guard, but I wouldn't worry about it, especially with the other items he's got on the to-do list. Low priority. If anything, wait for a sale.
    Says the guy who's never fallen over on that one babyhead that his bark buster goes just beyond.

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    Re: I'm dumb. Y'all know it. So make me be less dumb. KDX? CRF? KTM?

    Kates describes my riding style as "hits everything but the lottery". I've yet to break a lever.

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    Re: I'm dumb. Y'all know it. So make me be less dumb. KDX? CRF? KTM?

    Levers, perches, nothing is off limits in the woods.
    Things will find a way to get broken with even the best protection out there.
    As motorcyclists, we should understand this.
    Not crashing helps some.

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    Re: I'm dumb. Y'all know it. So make me be less dumb. KDX? CRF? KTM?

    Give it time, you are still a newb in this world.
    Quote Originally Posted by nhbubba View Post
    Kates describes my riding style as "hits everything but the lottery". I've yet to break a lever.

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    Re: I'm dumb. Y'all know it. So make me be less dumb. KDX? CRF? KTM?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chippertheripper View Post
    Says the guy who's never fallen over on that one babyhead that his bark buster goes just beyond.
    I didn't say never Just dramatically reduce. End of last year, I managed to bend my clutch lever downward and I still have no idea how it was possible. Shit happens.

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    Re: I'm dumb. Y'all know it. So make me be less dumb. KDX? CRF? KTM?

    somehow I snapped an aluminum lever from a tip over on the driveway

    levers *can* break with guards

    I packed a spare lever (and shift lever...axle nut...axle block...washers...and master link) for LAB2V and now I carry it on every ride

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    Re: I'm dumb. Y'all know it. So make me be less dumb. KDX? CRF? KTM?

    I managed to break my clutch perch when I pitched my bike (and myself) down some ledge. The hand guard hit the ground so hard that it rotated out of the way and the clutch master cylinder kissed the ground hard enough that the perch broke and now only 1 of the two bolts is effective in keeping it secured to the bars. Since it's expensive to replace, and there is decent clamping force from the remaining bolt, I use a couple heavy zip ties to keep things lined up properly. No issues with it over the past couple of seasons. The lever didn't break though!

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    Re: I'm dumb. Y'all know it. So make me be less dumb. KDX? CRF? KTM?

    Quote Originally Posted by ZX-12R View Post
    The lever didn't break though!

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    Re: I'm dumb. Y'all know it. So make me be less dumb. KDX? CRF? KTM?

    on this topic, wrapping your bars with teflon tape before installing the perches will help them rotate out of the way during the inevitable. the perch bolts don't need to be crazy tight either.

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    Re: I'm dumb. Y'all know it. So make me be less dumb. KDX? CRF? KTM?

    I think it was ASV that used to offer a replacement perch clamshell half that had teflon on the inside for just that purpose.

    That said, replacement clutch perch and lever sets can be CHEAP, just look up the Bikemaster parts.

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    Re: I'm dumb. Y'all know it. So make me be less dumb. KDX? CRF? KTM?

    The problem in my case is I broke the half of the perch that's part of the master cylinder casting. The cap is still fine. Take a look at the attached parts diagram. The piece under the #34 bubble is what broke and you can't buy it separately from KTM. You have to buy the entire master. It really hasn't been a problem and one of the fabricators where I work insists that he can weld it if I bring it to him. I just haven't had a pressing need to fix it properly yet.

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    Re: I'm dumb. Y'all know it. So make me be less dumb. KDX? CRF? KTM?

    I really dislike that KTM uses the integrated handguard mounts as a necessary part of the lever pivot bolt. Not cool, KTM. Not cool.

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    Bah, right, hydraulic master.

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    Re: I'm dumb. Y'all know it. So make me be less dumb. KDX? CRF? KTM?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheIglu View Post
    I really dislike that KTM uses the integrated handguard mounts as a necessary part of the lever pivot bolt. Not cool, KTM. Not cool.
    Wut?

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    Re: I'm dumb. Y'all know it. So make me be less dumb. KDX? CRF? KTM?

    IIRC you can find a different year/model that doesn't ship with the integrated guards to find the PN for a normal pivot bolt.

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    Re: I'm dumb. Y'all know it. So make me be less dumb. KDX? CRF? KTM?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chippertheripper View Post
    Wut?
    My KTM has the stock handguards which I have since removed. The mounts for them attach to the pivot bolt for the levers and the nut for the pivot bolt is integrated into the plastic mount. They also act as spacers.

    I figured some models must come with straight pivot bolts that aren't longer to capture the mounts. I'll have to look into it.

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    Re: I'm dumb. Y'all know it. So make me be less dumb. KDX? CRF? KTM?

    I'm dumb. Y'all know it. So make me be less dumb. KDX? CRF? KTM?-img_2043-jpg

    The black thing.

    What size head is the oil check hole plug?

    Some fucking dipshit replaced mine with a 13mm or so. Too big to fit even a thin walled socked on there due to clearance with the clutch cover. No access with a wrench unless you pull the motor. Wtf!

    I'm dumb. Y'all know it. So make me be less dumb. KDX? CRF? KTM?-img_2045-jpg

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    Re: I'm dumb. Y'all know it. So make me be less dumb. KDX? CRF? KTM?

    I thought the oil check bolt was forward of the clutch cover?

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    Re: I'm dumb. Y'all know it. So make me be less dumb. KDX? CRF? KTM?

    Is that the one? The 10mm/Torx head bolt just up and to the right of the one mentioned?

    I really wish I had a KTM service manual.

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