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    Quote Originally Posted by csmutty View Post
    I think Ronnie Mac is awesome. Gives me some hope that the future won't be all this politically correct garbage and there are still some cool people out there.

    And yes this already happened. Not going to say anything to spoil it.
    I don’t know if you know this, but you can do cool things and also not offend people, most of the time without even trying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chippertheripper View Post
    I don’t know if you know this, but you can do cool things and also not offend people, most of the time without even trying.
    Don't want to derail this 2 stroke centered topic too much, but I'd like to think that Ronnie Mac could be easily avoided if it was unpleasant to your disposition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chippertheripper View Post
    I don’t know if you know this, but you can do cool things and also not offend people, most of the time without even trying.
    Hahaaa, and without hiding you identity and acting like a pro wrestler... lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by csmutty View Post
    Don't want to derail this 2 stroke centered topic too much, but I'd like to think that Ronnie Mac could be easily avoided if it was unpleasant to your disposition.
    No, man. You insinuated that you were happy he wasn’t politically correct and did cool stuff.
    I’m saying you can do both, like be a nice person and do cool shit.
    You’re reading me wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_E_D View Post
    Hahaaa, and without hiding you identity and acting like a pro wrestler... lol.
    Or a porn star. I'd say he's more like a porn star.

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    Straight rhythm was awesome with all the 2T and the one Alta. RV vs RD on 2T 250. And nothing like the sound of a crisp 2T 125. AJ Catanzaro did pretty well on his James Stewart repro.

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    not usually interested in the RBSR but watched it because of the 2-stroke/90's focus ... racing was awesome!

    do you guys not know who Ronnie Mac is? i've always been a JA fan, i think the act is funny ... saw him "in person" at Unadilla moto is way too serious these days. bunch a stuffed suits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by typeone View Post
    not usually interested in the RBSR but watched it because of the 2-stroke/90's focus ... racing was awesome!

    do you guys not know who Ronnie Mac is? i've always been a JA fan, i think the act is funny ... saw him "in person" at Unadilla moto is way too serious these days. bunch a stuffed suits.
    I don't follow enough to know

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    Re: Let's liven up this forum... 2 STROKE!

    Sorry to derail the Ronnie Mac thread...

    Yesterday I ripped around the neighborhood to run some Stabil into the carb of my 17 KTM 250XC-W. I let it warm up a bit as the temps were at mid 40's before running it around the neighborhood. I noticed the fueling was spot on. I mean perfection. Wheelie control was like a rheostat. I always thought the bike was a little pipey with stumbles and then BRAP! OK it's time to admit I suck at this whole jet/needle thing. I need wisdom and training to get the most of this bike. Or sell it and go MTB'ng

    I will be honest and say that I had Cliffs jet it for me for normal summer riding. I haven't touched it. Lazy 4 stoke change the oil type of personality that loves the weight and height of the 2t. I have no issue with tools and fiddling it's the lack of knowledge on jetting. Thoughts?

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    If it was ripping yesterday on the bigger, cooler air, then you have been blubbering fat all summer. It was particularly humid this year, which may have called for a jetting adjustment from a more normal summer. really hot humidity is really one condition that is pretty hard to nail, and even if you do, the bike will not feel like it did yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ducatirdr View Post
    Sorry to derail the Ronnie Mac thread...

    Yesterday I ripped around the neighborhood to run some Stabil into the carb of my 17 KTM 250XC-W. I let it warm up a bit as the temps were at mid 40's before running it around the neighborhood. I noticed the fueling was spot on. I mean perfection. Wheelie control was like a rheostat. I always thought the bike was a little pipey with stumbles and then BRAP! OK it's time to admit I suck at this whole jet/needle thing. I need wisdom and training to get the most of this bike. Or sell it and go MTB'ng

    I will be honest and say that I had Cliffs jet it for me for normal summer riding. I haven't touched it. Lazy 4 stoke change the oil type of personality that loves the weight and height of the 2t. I have no issue with tools and fiddling it's the lack of knowledge on jetting. Thoughts?
    do you ever tune the air screw throughout the season as temps change? if Cliff's jetted it, that might be all you need to tweak to keep it crisp every ride.

    temps/conditions were awesome on Sat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by typeone View Post
    do you ever tune the air screw throughout the season as temps change? if Cliff's jetted it, that might be all you need to tweak to keep it crisp every ride.

    temps/conditions were awesome on Sat.
    That works if the stumble is right off idle. 0-5% throttle. If it is elsewhere, than you may have adjustments to make inside the the mysterious fuel meter.

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    Re: Let's liven up this forum... 2 STROKE!

    Quote Originally Posted by ducatirdr View Post
    Sorry to derail the Ronnie Mac thread...

    Yesterday I ripped around the neighborhood to run some Stabil into the carb of my 17 KTM 250XC-W. I let it warm up a bit as the temps were at mid 40's before running it around the neighborhood. I noticed the fueling was spot on. I mean perfection. Wheelie control was like a rheostat. I always thought the bike was a little pipey with stumbles and then BRAP! OK it's time to admit I suck at this whole jet/needle thing. I need wisdom and training to get the most of this bike. Or sell it and go MTB'ng

    I will be honest and say that I had Cliffs jet it for me for normal summer riding. I haven't touched it. Lazy 4 stoke change the oil type of personality that loves the weight and height of the 2t. I have no issue with tools and fiddling it's the lack of knowledge on jetting. Thoughts?
    Just sell it and get a mountain bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by csmutty View Post
    Just sell it and get a mountain bike.
    Who are you?
    MTBs are way more PC than 2t’s.

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    Re: Let's liven up this forum... 2 STROKE!

    Quote Originally Posted by ducatirdr View Post
    Sorry to derail the Ronnie Mac thread...

    Yesterday I ripped around the neighborhood to run some Stabil into the carb of my 17 KTM 250XC-W.
    I just turn the fuel off, and drain the bowl. If there is fuel in the tank I'll drain it as well at the end of the year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_E_D View Post
    That works if the stumble is right off idle. 0-5% throttle. If it is elsewhere, than you may have adjustments to make inside the the mysterious fuel meter.
    yeah, wasn't clear where the stumble was but sounded lower in range from his description. do the '17 KTMs come with the finicky Mikuni?

    speaking of getting inside the mysterious fuel meter, pretty sure i'm gonna try a STIC metering block next season ... although i prob shouldn't, the RR is a crisp power house as it sits right now. god i love that motor.

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    Some positive press for the new KTM/Husky 250i : Best Dual-Sport/Enduro—2018 Husqvarna TE 250i | Cycle World
    With the phrase "dual-sport" used no less!

    If I were in a more spendy mood, I'd love to take home a late model 300 and plate it. Sell off my KTM 200 and WR450; combined into one machine. I think this machine would solve almost all of my off-road and dual-sporting needs.

    I'm still torn on the injection. No screwing with jetting => win. Not sold on oil injection. The oil injection motor is apparently a wear/service item now. So you trade jetting for rebuilding oil pumps. Not a clear win.

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    Jetting is easy enough to change. Honestly on my KTM treehunnit it’s not very picky. I raced a few weeks ago with temps in the 30s with full summer jetting and it was fine. It Started and ran normal. The course on the other hand was 4 hours of torture and pain.

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    Re: Let's liven up this forum... 2 STROKE!

    So Im conaodering trading my DR350 for a plated KDX220 that seems to be pretty well set up. Im a total dirt noob that wants to attempt some trail riding next year. I want something low-maintenance, easy to ride, and not too tall for my 58 self. Thoughts on this potential trade? Also sorta considering a CRF230F as they fall into the short, easy to ride, and low-maintenance boat.

    I have zero 2-stroke experience other than my leaf blower and weedwhacker. Any advice on what to look for if I look at this KDX?

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    KDX220 is a great woods bike. I've ridden a couple and they are in the same vein as my KTM 200 XC. Great choice, IMO.

    Not really familiar with the CRF230. Isn't that a pretty low-spec machine?

    2-strokes are more fun anyway. The KDX is a winner.
    No valves, yo.

    Seat height is a thing. My advice is just get used to picking machines up. It's what I do. @~225 lbs the KDX isn't that much effort to lift anyway.

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    ugh...it can go either way...depends on the condition of the bikes...kdx is kinda old by now. it has a reputation for being bulletproof and an amazing trail bike, but ya gotta check all the basics - suspension/r&r/crank/hours on top end/etc. good thing is a 2 stroke (with the exception of crank rebuilding...and for me - re-assembling a bottom end straight) can generally be rebuilt at home

    the 230f is a pretty easy breezy fun to ride bike...but after being on a full size 350, why would you want to step down?

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    I had a 230f back in the day. Heavy bike for it's size. It is simple though as it is air cooled and doesn't make much power. It's estart only.

    Also had a kdx200. Bike was awesome. Great low end power, suspension was plush, and with a pipe and rad valve they really wake up in the midrange too.

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    Re: Let's liven up this forum... 2 STROKE!

    CRF230F is 249 lbs wet, stock. KDX220 is 243 lbs wet, stock.
    My DR350!is probably ~310. Either one would be quite a bit lighter.

    In regards to “downsizing” from my 350, it’s been 99% a street bike, with 1% dirt roads - I’m a total dirt noob. The 230 is defintely a low-spec bike, but everything I’ve read is that it’s very noob-friendly, and the 7/8 size frame gives it a shorter seat height. E-Start is a plus. There’s plenty of info out there about good suspension upgrades for the buck. And they’re newer and the ones for sale seem a lot less beat

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    My feeling is that everyone will learn faster on a smaller bike (to some degree). That makes the 230 a good choice. Experienced dirt guy will steer you away because it's heavy for it's size and makes little power. But they probably learned on something similar way back when and have already forgotten and been spoiled by performance machines.

    That said, the KDX kinda splits the difference. If you already have a DR350, I would think the KDX would be a great step. It is similar in size and riding position, but a little lighter, and more capable in the woods.

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    Yeah between those two choices, go with the KDX. I've had one for years (although not plated) and they're really great bikes. They don't compare to a modern enduro bike, but neither does the 230L.

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