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NETRA Jack Frost Sprint Enduro - Oct 29 - HVD

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    NETRA Jack Frost Sprint Enduro - Oct 29 - HVD

    starting a thread... i'm in, anyone else?

    can't wait to see how they craft the loops, the scrambles and enduro loops are always great.

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    Re: NETRA Jack Frost Sprint Enduro - Oct 29 - HVD

    I'm on the fence. Going to ride today and see if my wrist holds up. If it's good, I'm in.

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    Re: NETRA Jack Frost Sprint Enduro - Oct 29 - HVD

    I'm already committed to a camp and ride in patchaug fri/sat.

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    Re: NETRA Jack Frost Sprint Enduro - Oct 29 - HVD

    ^ damn, that sounds fun. i really need to plate the RR to expand access.

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    Re: NETRA Jack Frost Sprint Enduro - Oct 29 - HVD

    rode the hare scramble loop on Sunday, fun stuff. nice way to patch the lower, non-tech together. we ride most it in the opposite direction. i'm assuming NETRA will use this or a flavor of for one of the Jack Frost tests.

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    Re: NETRA Jack Frost Sprint Enduro - Oct 29 - HVD

    Do I need a plate for this thing?

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    Re: NETRA Jack Frost Sprint Enduro - Oct 29 - HVD

    Doubtful. It's not like a regular Enduro with connector sections.

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    Re: NETRA Jack Frost Sprint Enduro - Oct 29 - HVD

    Quote Originally Posted by number9 View Post
    Do I need a plate for this thing?
    nope! no plate or MA ORV reg needed.

    you should join, the format is super fun and laid back. in a nutshell: 3 different 'tests' (cross, enduro, extreme), 3 laps each for a total of 9 laps. complete them within a ~1.5-2hr time block in any order but consecutive. e.g. cross test x3 in a row = no go. distance and lap times are short for each test... hence, SPRINT. don't sweat the 'extreme' label, kids race these loops as well. the tests are more like 1 grass/flow, 2 woods, 3 tech woods.

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    Re: NETRA Jack Frost Sprint Enduro - Oct 29 - HVD

    Quote Originally Posted by typeone View Post
    nope! no plate or MA ORV reg needed.

    you should join, the format is super fun and laid back. in a nutshell: 3 different 'tests' (cross, enduro, extreme), 3 laps each for a total of 9 laps. complete them within a ~1.5-2hr time block in any order but consecutive. e.g. cross test x3 in a row = no go. distance and lap times are short for each test... hence, SPRINT. don't sweat the 'extreme' label, kids race these loops as well. the tests are more like 1 grass/flow, 2 woods, 3 tech woods.
    I'm not sure if the KTM will be going by then. Is it a bad idea to try it on the CRF? I ordered a set of handguards for it, but they're MX style -- they don't attach to the end of the bars like the hefty EE ones do. I don't want to break the Honda..

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    Re: NETRA Jack Frost Sprint Enduro - Oct 29 - HVD

    can't you just swap the EE's over to the CRF? no reason you couldn't run that bike. you've ridden HVD so you know what the trails are like, it's not Erzberg. shit, you could just run the cross and woods test to avoid anything technical if you wanted too. you won't get fully scored but if you don't care, the loops are good fun.

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    Re: NETRA Jack Frost Sprint Enduro - Oct 29 - HVD

    Quote Originally Posted by typeone View Post
    can't you just swap the EE's over to the CRF? no reason you couldn't run that bike. you've ridden HVD so you know what the trails are like, it's not Erzberg. shit, you could just run the cross and woods test to avoid anything technical if you wanted too. you won't get fully scored but if you don't care, the loops are good fun.
    Yeah, I could do that actually - great idea. But the CRF also has a flimsy plastic skid plate, instead of the tough one on the KTM. Fuck it, I'll just use this as an excuse to get the KTM going, hell or high water..!

    Anyone want to come over and help me wrench?

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    Re: NETRA Jack Frost Sprint Enduro - Oct 29 - HVD

    cool, get that Pumpkin in shape ... she'll ride like the wind for Allhallowtide!

    if i had the time i'd wrench with ya. chip away at a few tasks a night. what's the grand list anyway?

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    Re: NETRA Jack Frost Sprint Enduro - Oct 29 - HVD

    Quote Originally Posted by typeone View Post
    cool, get that Pumpkin in shape ... she'll ride like the wind for Allhallowtide!

    if i had the time i'd wrench with ya. chip away at a few tasks a night. what's the grand list anyway?
    The clutch isn't disengaging properly. I can start the bike in neutral just fine. I can pull the clutch lever in just fine. But as soon I put it in gear, the bike stalls. The clutch isn't doing shit, I just don't know why...

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    Re: NETRA Jack Frost Sprint Enduro - Oct 29 - HVD

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    The clutch isn't disengaging properly. I can start the bike in neutral just fine. I can pull the clutch lever in just fine. But as soon I put it in gear, the bike stalls. The clutch isn't doing shit, I just don't know why...
    Are you able to use a combination of throttle and clutch slip to get moving? If so, congratulations, it's 'good enough'

    Some of the two strokes I've ridden did not like to stay running in gear (due to clutch drag?), hence the two-stroke throttle blip. And they didn't like to start in gear because of it too. I know my brother's YZ125, if I came to a stop in gear and didn't keep blip the throttle, it'll die pretty quickly. I've heard people say that's normal, I've also seen some claim it can be fixed. But no one seems to care that much - just blip the throttle and ride it.

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    Re: NETRA Jack Frost Sprint Enduro - Oct 29 - HVD

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    The clutch isn't disengaging properly. I can start the bike in neutral just fine. I can pull the clutch lever in just fine. But as soon I put it in gear, the bike stalls. The clutch isn't doing shit, I just don't know why...

    My 06 300 xc-w is the same way. It had a tusk clutch in it, I replaced it with factory parts. It helped but didn't completely go away. The other thing people try is different oils. Unfortunately if you google ktm clutch drag it happens to all of them no idea why.

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    Re: NETRA Jack Frost Sprint Enduro - Oct 29 - HVD

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    The clutch isn't disengaging properly. I can start the bike in neutral just fine. I can pull the clutch lever in just fine. But as soon I put it in gear, the bike stalls. The clutch isn't doing shit, I just don't know why...
    you just serviced some of these parts, correct? think you mentioned doing MC rebuild, fresh bleed, basket, plates, etc. can you outline what was done? any issues along the way? other than the main issue now.

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    Re: NETRA Jack Frost Sprint Enduro - Oct 29 - HVD

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    The clutch isn't disengaging properly. I can start the bike in neutral just fine. I can pull the clutch lever in just fine. But as soon I put it in gear, the bike stalls. The clutch isn't doing shit, I just don't know why...
    How about after riding it for a bit? This is VERY common on cold ktm clutches, and worse with cheaper plates (tusk).
    You can also turn the idle speed up a smidge, and hopefully that may cure your stalling problem.

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    Re: NETRA Jack Frost Sprint Enduro - Oct 29 - HVD

    Quote Originally Posted by typeone View Post
    you just serviced some of these parts, correct? think you mentioned doing MC rebuild, fresh bleed, basket, plates, etc. can you outline what was done? any issues along the way? other than the main issue now.
    I ended up doing the kitchen sink, which I shouldn't've -- I should have fixed one thing at a time and verified that that one thing now worked. Instead...

    I put in new wave spring (Rekluse), new billet clutch basket (Barnett), new steel clutch drive plates (Rekluse), new clutch friction plates (KTM), new tranny oil (Motorex), new clutch master cylinder rebuild kit (KTM) and a new clutch slave cylinder o-ring (KTM).

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    Re: NETRA Jack Frost Sprint Enduro - Oct 29 - HVD

    I suggest you ride it around some and get it good and hot and see how everything beds in.

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    Re: NETRA Jack Frost Sprint Enduro - Oct 29 - HVD

    Quote Originally Posted by Chippertheripper View Post
    I suggest you ride it around some and get it good and hot and see how everything beds in.
    Before I fucked with rebuilt it all, it would drag the clutch slightly like all KTMs do. Since I rebuilt it, as soon as you put it in gear it just goes WHAM! and stalls. It's not dragging, it's like the clutch isn't disengaging at all. If I rev it and then put it in gear, it's liable to send me through my garage ceiling!

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    Re: NETRA Jack Frost Sprint Enduro - Oct 29 - HVD

    You should pull it outside then. CO kills, anyways.

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    Re: NETRA Jack Frost Sprint Enduro - Oct 29 - HVD

    Foot ready on the rear brake, thumb on the kill switch. Has it been sitting for a little while? Almost sounds like a stuck clutch that needs a little action. When off, can it be put in gear, pull the clutch in and push it down the drive way without hearing/feeling the motor turn?

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    Re: NETRA Jack Frost Sprint Enduro - Oct 29 - HVD

    Quote Originally Posted by Chippertheripper View Post
    You should pull it outside then. CO kills, anyways.
    Yeah, I'll give that a try this afternoon.

    Quote Originally Posted by aldend123 View Post
    Foot ready on the rear brake, thumb on the kill switch. Has it been sitting for a little while? Almost sounds like a stuck clutch that needs a little action. When off, can it be put in gear, pull the clutch in and push it down the drive way without hearing/feeling the motor turn?
    Yeah, it has been sitting a couple months. ()

    I can try walking it down the driveway with the motor off, but I think the Rekluse makes that kind of troubleshooting useless

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    Re: NETRA Jack Frost Sprint Enduro - Oct 29 - HVD

    i forgot about the Rekluse angle, not familiar with that stuff at all but... sitting for months with freshly oiled plates and full of oil? or just sitting before any oil?

    FWIW, and i dont think it has anything to do with any of this but, my Ape and Husky's hated Motorex syn. terrible clutch feel and weird groaning. tried it in all three bikes, no dice.

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    Re: NETRA Jack Frost Sprint Enduro - Oct 29 - HVD

    Quote Originally Posted by number9 View Post
    Yeah, I'll give that a try this afternoon.

    Yeah, it has been sitting a couple months. ()

    I can try walking it down the driveway with the motor off, but I think the Rekluse makes that kind of troubleshooting useless
    Do you have a rekluse clutch, or just the wave spring on the throwout?

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