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Good stud..... bad stud?

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    Good stud..... bad stud?


    Hey guys.
    I'm looking for you opinion on stud options. I'm looking to set up the spare tires I have for ice riding. The bike is a wr250r and the tires I will be using are the stock bridgeton's that came on the bike.
    Also any tricks or tips in what to use and how to install will be much appreciated.

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    Re: Good stud..... bad stud?

    Kold Kutters Screws. Thats what you want.

    "Real" ice bike tires have liners inside the tires and a crap load of crews. I made built my own ice tires some years back. I cut the centers out of some used streetbike tires to make liners. Then, used 3/4 or 1" screws. The liners protect the tubes and allow you to use longer screws. It was a CRAP LOAD of work but ice riding on properly built tires is like nothing else.

    Now that being said, if you want to keep the cost down and just go out and fool around by all means throw some screws in whatever tires youve got and get after it. Depending on the height of the knobs or how worn they are you will likely have to stick to shorter screws. You can prob get away with 5/8" in the rear but might have to go with 1/2" up front. You will loose screws and rip knobs if you go more than a few rides, but its a basic setup to get you out there.

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    Re: Good stud..... bad stud?

    I love to DIY stuff, but I wouldn't bother making ice tires. Lot of work, IMO. DIY mounting them is enough.

    Not sure I'd use the stock WR tires. Tire compound is a thing. I would be concerned about soft rubber not holding up and not retaining the screws. A lot of work to go through just to chuck screws the first time you exit a corner on the juice. It used to be rears used a special hard-compound Kenda tire made for this. Although I hear sand/paddle tires are the thing now too.

    Maybe if installed with glue/thread-locker?

    Also keep in mind there is a terminology thing. Most I know call the ice setup "screws" where the "studded" tires are for winter woods riding. They have short studs embedded in the knobs with a special gun. You can use (short) screws in the woods by they are not ideal. I don't know anyone that has really enjoyed using woods studs on the ice. The taller screws really are the way to go. Especially for rec riding where the surface isn't cleaned as often. In fact I wouldn't even bother with "AMA" length screws. I'd do "canadians" or the longer Marcel Fournier "cheaters".

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    Re: Good stud..... bad stud?

    Quote Originally Posted by nhbubba View Post
    Maybe if installed with glue/thread-locker?
    we used to use Gorilla Glue when installing Kold Kutters on the minis, they held great but not sure they would hold on a full size dirty.

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    Re: Good stud..... bad stud?

    If you're thinking simple screw-ins, fuck the Kold Kutters. If you can find 'em, go with Kanadian Kutters. I used them years ago on the Raptor and noticed a HUGE difference from the A-typical Kold Kutter.

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    Re: Good stud..... bad stud?

    Thanks for the advice. I was looking at the stock tiers more because they had good size knobs on them to put some screws in. I'll use the correct terminology going forward thanks.

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    I have two bags of ice screws that I never used and probably never will. I'll see if I can dig em up to find out what kind they are and if they're what you're lookin for I'll sell em to ya for half the retail price.

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    Re: Good stud..... bad stud?

    Quote Originally Posted by OreoGaborio View Post
    I have two bags of ice screws that I never used and probably never will. I'll see if I can dig em up to find out what kind they are and if they're what you're lookin for I'll sell em to ya for half the retail price.
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    The icemen cometh! Good stud..... bad stud?-469642_569225706439975_1638890299_o-jpg

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    Re: Good stud..... bad stud?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_E_D View Post
    The icemen cometh! Good stud..... bad stud?-469642_569225706439975_1638890299_o-jpg
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    Sam, Me, and Dean. Super fun and my first real day on the ice.

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    ...need me some ice tires...

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    Re: Good stud..... bad stud?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kurlon View Post
    ...need me some ice tires...
    No joke.

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    Re: Good stud..... bad stud?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kurlon View Post
    ...need me some ice tires...
    I’m also looking for some for the ttr. So if any come up please keep me in mind.

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    Re: Good stud..... bad stud?

    Well I haven't had a chance to find the screws yet, but I found my order receipt.

    Kold Kutter 5/8" #10 1000 Pack Racing Track Tire Ice Studs/Screws KK-581000-10
    Item# 231012268506
    $66.95 USD each
    Quantity 2
    Total $133.90 USD

    They're yours if you want em... Just need to find em.

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    Re: Good stud..... bad stud?

    Just found some Canadian tires with tubes and cover/protector wraps for 200. Not sure of age, need to check for dry cracks, but seems like a good deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MHenry600 View Post
    Just found some Canadian tires with tubes and cover/protector wraps for 200. Not sure of age, need to check for dry cracks, but seems like a good deal.
    Who is the builder? This could be a great deal, or a waste of 200 bucks. Used ice tires are dicey. When they are done, they are useless. If the seller is a known member of the local ice scene, that is a better gamble. You definitely CAN score a great deal on good tires. Starting fresh is expensive as hell, but you know what you have will last 5 years or more.

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    Re: Good stud..... bad stud?

    I'll to find out. Says they are 4 yrs old no cracking, and only used for 2 yrs

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    Could be good. depends on use and care. I started on used, and ended up buying new. So glad I did. Still running that set I bought new and amazed by the performance levels after 4 + seasons.

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    Re: Good stud..... bad stud?

    Got him down to 175. Didn't say who, but built by a "pro" I think for the low cost and just looking to ride recreationally, I'll probably jump on them.

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