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    Re: Supercross 2017


    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_E_D View Post
    The tracks did seem soooo technical last year. THere were some I was unsure I could even ride. This one seemed pretty one dimensional.
    Definitely seemed like each track was different and very challenging last year. Each had a unique challenge.

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    Re: Supercross 2017

    Quote Originally Posted by cdovego View Post
    How can you justify throwing shade at a guy funding his own program?
    Because it has been proven as a tough road that typically winds up with the racer having significantly less money in their pockets than when they started and not really being too competitive (i.e. able to fight for the title). Tough to compete with the money and resources that manufacturers can throw at a race program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tls25rs View Post
    Don't remember where I heard it but I recall a comment along the lines of the plan being to make the earlier races a touch easier to ride to get everyone back in the swing of things without losing as many to injuries and possibly step up the difficulty further into the season.
    interesting, thanks for the info. that would be a smart idea. i also like the timing difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tls25rs View Post
    Because it has been proven as a tough road that typically winds up with the racer having significantly less money in their pockets than when they started and not really being too competitive (i.e. able to fight for the title). Tough to compete with the money and resources that manufacturers can throw at a race program.
    Privateers are the heart and soul of racing. If it was done based on dollars/sense/logic, nobody would race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cdovego View Post
    Privateers are the heart and soul of racing. If it was done based on dollars/sense/logic, nobody would race.
    i wont argue that. BUT, privateers dont last very long if they dont pick up a sponsor willing to fit most of the bills.
    my point was, after watching CR22 do it and the toll it takes on you, im not sure why any top rider would try it. be an owner or a rider. you cant be both.
    the behind the scenes stuff takes so much time and that time should be used for recovery and training, not managerial shit. its even more difficult to ride aggressively if all youre worried about is "how much is this costing me?"

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    You're leaving out the reward for success.

    Making it on your own is the classic David vs. Goliath - risky and tough...sure, but oh so rewarding if you get it right.

    For the record, you absolutely can be a rider and an owner at the same time. It might not be up to your risk/reward standard but it's very feasible.

    Think small business owner vs. safe(ish) corporate cube job.

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    At the top level, that's got to be tough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_E_D View Post
    At the top level, that's got to be tough.
    The real crazy ones seek out the toughest road in life because nothing worth doing is easy or somesuch inspirational saying...

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    Re: Supercross 2017

    speaking of privateers, psyched to see Jimmy back in the 450 class. and on this topic of footing the bill, check out his comment at ~1:58


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    Quote Originally Posted by SVRACER01 View Post
    i wont argue that. BUT, privateers dont last very long if they dont pick up a sponsor willing to fit most of the bills.
    my point was, after watching CR22 do it and the toll it takes on you, im not sure why any top rider would try it. be an owner or a rider. you cant be both.
    the behind the scenes stuff takes so much time and that time should be used for recovery and training, not managerial shit. its even more difficult to ride aggressively if all youre worried about is "how much is this costing me?"
    Even road racing they flame out pretty quick. I know Elena Myers tried it, and she's done.

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    My favorite was you going through T2 with your eyes closed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pittenger5 View Post
    Even road racing they flame out pretty quick. I know Elena Myers tried it, and she's done.
    She got married and wants to make babies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cdovego View Post
    She got married and wants to make babies.
    She ran her own team for a year, and then couldnt get sponsorship from what I saw publicly.

    And married? What was all this one in a million talk!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cdovego View Post
    You're leaving out the reward for success.

    Making it on your own is the classic David vs. Goliath - risky and tough...sure, but oh so rewarding if you get it right.

    For the record, you absolutely can be a rider and an owner at the same time. It might not be up to your risk/reward standard but it's very feasible.

    Think small business owner vs. safe(ish) corporate cube job.
    i see your point and i dont disagree, but CR22 was doing it for years. it was amazing to see him last as long as he did. you could tell immediately that a huge weight was lifted from his shoulders when Yamaha picked him up. He was focused, energized, and was riding harder and with a purpose. he was a different rider when he could be focused on just being the best rider he could be.
    im not saying that it cant be done, its just rare. in fact, i cant think of anyone that has.
    its more like a small business owner opening a shop right next to the big corporation that sells the same product.

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    This 10 year old has the makings of a future champion and absolutely rips his 65 but here he is riding a 450 wtf!?!

    10 year old rides 450 dirt bike! - YouTube

    7 more minutes of jaw droppage in this one, check out the berm at 3:00 Paul and the GoPro at his face after is hilarious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imbeek View Post
    This 10 year old has the makings of a future champion and absolutely rips his 65 but here he is riding a 450 wtf!?!

    10 year old rides 450 dirt bike! - YouTube

    7 more minutes of jaw droppage in this one, check out the berm at 1:00 Paul and the GoPro at his face after is hilarious.
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    It really is a young mans sport!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imbeek View Post
    This 10 year old has the makings of a future champion and absolutely rips his 65 but here he is riding a 450 wtf!?!

    10 year old rides 450 dirt bike! - YouTube

    7 more minutes of jaw droppage in this one, check out the berm at 1:00 Paul and the GoPro at his face after is hilarious.
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    hahaa, the brake tap at 6:07 ... kids on it

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    Ok, that was really good. Great video making and the kid is funny.

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    Shoot, I meant the berm and face video at 3:00, not 1:00

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    Quote Originally Posted by R7 View Post
    I'm thinking Roczen is going to clean house this season.
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    hate to admit it but you may right. if he can keep the bike under him and stay healthy at least.
    ill still keep pulling for RD5
    Im just gonna leave this here. That was ugly.

    In other news...great showing by Jimmy D

    I missed why they decided to suspend anderson, i mean, i saw what he did. Wasnt the instant karma enough of a punishment?

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    Re: Supercross 2017

    Honda released update.

    Compound fracture of left forearm. More bluntly; that means stuff on the inside was on the outside.

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    Damn...Nasty stuff

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    That was a nasty crash. He is lucky not to have something worse. I didn't even want to watch it the 3rd and 4th time they replayed it.

    I've seen my arm bone poking through my skin. It F#$% hurts and when you get loaded onto a back board there is no place your arm wants to lay like that. I had the guy in the ambulance hold my arm up in the air until the drugs kicked in. I feel bad for Ken. That will take him out for the season. I really don't see anyone left in the field that can give Dungey a run at the championship.

    Anderson throwing a punch at Friese in the tunnel to the pits was a dumb move for a kid in the championship points race. Friese was the one that ran into him in the heat. This is kind of a deja vu as Friese did the same thing to Peik last year and got pummeled like a prize fighter for the move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ducatirdr View Post
    That was a nasty crash. He is lucky not to have something worse. I didn't even want to watch it the 3rd and 4th time they replayed it.

    I've seen my arm bone poking through my skin. It F#$% hurts and when you get loaded onto a back board there is no place your arm wants to lay like that. I had the guy in the ambulance hold my arm up in the air until the drugs kicked in. I feel bad for Ken. That will take him out for the season. I really don't see anyone left in the field that can give Dungey a run at the championship.

    Anderson throwing a punch at Friese in the tunnel to the pits was a dumb move for a kid in the championship points race. Friese was the one that ran into him in the heat. This is kind of a deja vu as Friese did the same thing to Peik last year and got pummeled like a prize fighter for the move.
    Horrible crash! Malcolm looked pretty fast and aggressive in the heat...some more seat time and he might surprise people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxer72 View Post
    Horrible crash! Malcolm looked pretty fast and aggressive in the heat...some more seat time and he might surprise people.
    Funny you say that. Im at a dealer conference in denver and was talking to a couple honda guys and they thought maybe HRC would give malcolm a call. Not like he doesnt have a relationship with honda.

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    The chances of Honda getting a #1 plate on their new bike are over. Feel bad for KR94, that was a nasty hit.

    I stand by my comment about CR22....there are more deserving riders of a factory ride.. sorry.

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