Teenage dirt bike rider missing around CT/RI border

**PhilB** · 01-16-17, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by Falko

... And they say pot is a victimless drug....

Pot IS a victimless drug. Pot prohibition, and the resulting black market, is far from victimless.

PhilB

**Falko** · 01-16-17, 01:28 PM

Comment was pretty much sarcasm, sort of blended in with the rest of the post. No need to get pot antsy.

**PhilB** · 01-16-17, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by Falko

Comment was pretty much sarcasm, sort of blended in with the rest of the post. No need to get pot antsy.

I don't even use the stuff. I just get cranky when causes, effects, and blame get misplaced. Especially when the misplacement results in deadly serious problems like the War on Drugs.

Originally Posted by SteveM

Apparently, "Don't bring a knife to a gunfight.", does not apply to Kevin.

Bringing a knife to a gunfight is actually a pretty good plan, if the fight starts at about 15' or less.

(Although it's dubious in this case whether there was even a gun, much less a gunfight.)

PhilB

**Falko** · 01-16-17, 02:58 PM

I thought the rule was 21'.

**PhilB** · 01-16-17, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by Falko

I thought the rule was 21'.

I'd imagine it varies with skills, experience, and circumstances.

PhilB

**Falko** · 01-16-17, 04:15 PM

There actually used to be a law/rule about someone with a knife maintaining 21' or it could be considered a lethal range. It was an odd thing developed by a police chief years ago I believe. It's been quoted in movies/TV a few times right before some guy with a knife charges a properly equipped guy and said guy with knife usually gets shot. It was a far reaching comment.

**backinthesaddle** · 01-16-17, 04:22 PM

Isn't the 7 yards the FBI stat for how long an attacket can cover ground in one second??

**backinthesaddle** · 01-16-17, 04:24 PM

What about the father of the deceased? I'd imagine some culpability in this if he and the son really were in a pot business together.

**Pittenger5** · 01-16-17, 04:29 PM

Knife to a gunfight on Mythbusters

Mythbusters Never Bring a Knife to a Gun Fight - YouTube

**PhilB** · 01-16-17, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by backinthesaddle

What about the father of the deceased? I'd imagine some culpability in this if he and the son really were in a pot business together.

In terms of responsibility, maybe to some extent. If only for the fact of raising the kid to be engaged in a dangerous activity. Culpability? No, the father cannot be held legally liable for any aspect of this (although he may now face some investigation regarding his own drug-related activities).

PhilB

**Philkinson** · 01-16-17, 04:51 PM

Love live the Bayonet - the original knife that was brought to a gun fight

**aldend123** · 01-17-17, 01:09 AM

Well, interesting to see what's turn out right so far from the undertone of gossip. That the family sells weed, that he was a delivery rider, and that likely was related to the disappearance. However, apparently the mysterious txt messages were legitimate? Didn't see that coming. Redhead uses ninja skill to punch the gun, but then gets a *folding* blade from his pocket and gets it in his gut? So it was already open in his pocket? Or one-hand assist open?

If the story continues to lack a weapon, seems like the story might evolve as it gets closer to a jury. I don't really understand it either way. Seems like there's a key detail missing. But the facebook conversations kinda paint a pretty simple picture.

**cdovego** · 01-17-17, 09:51 AM

Young lives wasted over bs. Even the xr100 deserved better.

**SVRACER01** · 01-17-17, 01:40 PM

xr 100 for sale. some water damage. $500

**Kurlon** · 01-17-17, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by SVRACER01

xr 100 for sale. some water damage. $500

Title status?

**number9** · 01-17-17, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by Kurlon

Title status?

Take a stab in the dark..

**Pittenger5** · 01-17-17, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by Kurlon

Title status?

Definitely not involved in a murder.

**TheIglu** · 01-17-17, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by number9

Take a stab in the dark..

That's what started this in the first place.

**Falko** · 01-17-17, 03:29 PM

Don't be so quick to draw to conclusions...

**SteveM** · 01-17-17, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by cdovego

Young lives wasted over bs. Even the xr100 deserved better.

From my viewpoint the only true victim was the poor xr100. It probably lived a rough life, forced to stay outdoors and poorly maintained, but like a dog who doesn't know better, it started right up whenever it was called. Then, for absolutely no good reason, it was sent to a watery grave. Perhaps someone will rescue it and bring it back to life so that it can be adopted by some kid who always wanted a dirt bike, but couldn't afford one. He (or she) will love that bike, cleaning it after every ride, changing the oil regularly, looking out for any rust, keeping an eye on chain wear, etc. and the bike will finally know what it feels like to be loved.

Dirt bike lives matter !

**butcher bergs** · 01-17-17, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by SVRACER01

xr 100 for sale. some water damage. $500

Originally Posted by Kurlon

Title status?

Waiting on a verdict

**SVRACER01** · 01-17-17, 03:49 PM

dirtbikes dont have titles.

**Imbeek** · 01-17-17, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by SteveM

From my viewpoint the only true victim was the poor xr100

Dude deserved to die before reaching 21 for buying and selling weed?

Wow

**PhilB** · 01-17-17, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by Imbeek

Dude deserved to die before reaching 21 for buying and selling weed?

Wow

Yeah, he already went there with that:

Originally Posted by SteveM

I'm sure I'll get lit up for this, but anyone involved in the drug trade deserves whatever terrible end they come to. ...

I'm just waiting for him to join the Prohibition Party and start calling for vigilantism against bartenders.
Prohibition Party - Wikipedia

PhilB

**Kurlon** · 01-17-17, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by SVRACER01

dirtbikes dont have titles.

Depends on the state and the size of the bike. Over 300cc in Maine and not pre 1997-ish, it gets titled.

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