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2015 Track Days Postings

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    Re: 2015 Track Days Postings

    Quote Originally Posted by nhbubba View Post
    I'll say that a 20 minute TD session is not near as tough on you as an 8 lap sprint race.
    I can only imagine what a 25 minute GT race is like.

    I think I'm prepared to say that more time on track beats having a more emptier track.
    And more track time with less people on track beats that.

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    Re: 2015 Track Days Postings

    Agreed. But if you have to pick..

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    Re: 2015 Track Days Postings

    More time. With some more liberal passing guidelines I can work around those that chronically motor the lesser scoots.

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    Re: 2015 Track Days Postings

    OK, so to summarize.

    The wish list is:

    - open track.
    - Long sessions.
    - Low cost.
    - Rain Insurance.
    - Weekends only.
    - And no passing rules that might interfere with a hot lap.

    Got it.


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    Re: 2015 Track Days Postings

    You forgot the no-interest payment plan.

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    Re: 2015 Track Days Postings

    Or,

    Long sessions > open track

    The rest have realistic challenges that are only resolved completely by making things prohibitively expensive.


    Like I said, I'd much prefer to get stuck in traffic ON the track than sit in the pit watching traffic go by. A bad lap is better than no lap. That is my justification for preferring 20 minute sessions.


    As for people that give up after 10-15 minutes of riding no matter the heat...... I can't understand. Sure, maybe at race pace, but it has been brought up time and time again that trackdays are NOT for going race pace. If you are spent after 5 sessions or 15 minutes into a session, you may want to look into letting the bike do more work.

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    Re: 2015 Track Days Postings

    Quote Originally Posted by TTD View Post
    OK, so to summarize.

    The wish list is:

    - open track.
    - Long sessions.
    - Low cost.
    - Rain Insurance.
    - Weekends only.
    - And no passing rules that might interfere with a hot lap.

    Got it.

    Nice! Let me know when this happens. I'll retire from racing and just do trackdays.

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    Re: 2015 Track Days Postings

    some friends tell me when I hit age 60 I will appreciate 15 minute sessions more...

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    Re: 2015 Track Days Postings

    Quote Originally Posted by TTD View Post
    OK, so to summarize.

    The wish list is:

    - open track.
    - Long sessions.
    - Low cost.
    - Rain Insurance.
    - Weekends only.
    - And no passing rules that might interfere with a hot lap.

    Got it.

    Weekends/weekdays are all the same to me, with a rotating work schedule.

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    Re: 2015 Track Days Postings

    Quote Originally Posted by mzdagrl View Post
    Oh yeah, I hope you guys don't think I was saying that was anything the trackday org could control - it certainly isn't. In my experience, all of you struggle with the same things, and all of you excel in various areas. I am not a one-track-day-org kind of person, as I think I get different stuff out of each day I do, and it's all good.
    ok from now on, we all have to qualify for our respective groups

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    Re: 2015 Track Days Postings

    Quote Originally Posted by TheIglu View Post
    Or,

    Long sessions > open track

    The rest have realistic challenges that are only resolved completely by making things prohibitively expensive.


    Like I said, I'd much prefer to get stuck in traffic ON the track than sit in the pit watching traffic go by. A bad lap is better than no lap. That is my justification for preferring 20 minute sessions.


    As for people that give up after 10-15 minutes of riding no matter the heat...... I can't understand. Sure, maybe at race pace, but it has been brought up time and time again that trackdays are NOT for going race pace. If you are spent after 5 sessions or 15 minutes into a session, you may want to look into letting the bike do more work.

    what !!!! I thought i was racing.. I get a checkered flag everytime

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    Re: 2015 Track Days Postings

    Some people only race on the straights!

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    Re: 2015 Track Days Postings

    Pah. GT races used to be 22 laps.

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    Re: 2015 Track Days Postings

    Quote Originally Posted by Degsy View Post
    Pah. GT races used to be 22 laps.
    Thats like 28 minutes max...

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    Re: 2015 Track Days Postings

    Quote Originally Posted by Degsy View Post
    Pah. GT races used to be 22 laps.
    Quote Originally Posted by csmutty View Post
    Thats like 28 minutes max...
    They used to be 30 minutes from the time the flag dropped. GTL was always my favorite race on the motard

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    Re: 2015 Track Days Postings

    So everyone that wants to do a weekend track day is going to be at Thompson this weekend right? Neither Friday or Saturday is sold out. What's up with that? A great track that's close to most of you, a weekend day, etc...

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    Re: 2015 Track Days Postings

    If it wasn't for family stuff I'd be there.. I'm hurting already

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    Re: 2015 Track Days Postings

    If the forecast shows sunshine all day I'll go.

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    Re: 2015 Track Days Postings

    Quote Originally Posted by Trouble View Post
    So everyone that wants to do a weekend track day is going to be at Thompson this weekend right? Neither Friday or Saturday is sold out. What's up with that? A great track that's close to most of you, a weekend day, etc...
    I'd be there if I wasn't planning to go to the NC trackday the following week...and then spend a couple days slinging mud at Hatfield & McCoy

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    Re: 2015 Track Days Postings

    Remember, we are running both the short and long course, so lots of fun to be had.

    The only rain scheduled is overnight on Friday... looking like track time hours both days should be nice.

    Also, I am not implementing the late payment fee this event, so you can just show up (with cash please, no time to process credit cards at tech)

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    Wish I had some extra cash. Been no overtime for me in 3 weeks :/

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    Re: 2015 Track Days Postings

    I tried a search but csnt find an answer , does tony's serve lunch ??

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    Lunch is not included. Usually available in nh, though

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    Re: 2015 Track Days Postings

    Quote Originally Posted by Chippertheripper View Post
    Yeah, 15min blows.
    If you can't hang on to a bike for 20mim, you're doing it wrong.
    From the guy who rides dirt bikes on the pavement... haha!

    Riding a 600/750/1000 etc, and REALLY riding it, on the track for 15 minutes is a lot of work. I could ride my motard all day long, but racing my 600 for 8 laps was about 11 minutes and I was totally smoked and sweating balls at the end.
    Quote Originally Posted by TTD View Post
    Riding hard for 15 min, or even 12 minutes if you do some warm up, should be hard.
    Totally.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheIglu View Post
    Or,

    Long sessions > open track
    I still disagree with this. I guess I just have a different perspective though. Passing people in heavy traffic isn't really developing your passing skills; usually, it's just a dangerous closing speed and encourages boneheaded moves as people get frustrated with being held up. Passing people who are only slightly slower than you is what really develops passing skills, and this is more likely to happen in a more open session with people of similar skill levels.

    Add this to the fact that I think 15 minutes is plenty of time especially on a supersport bike (uncomfortable, heavy, wrestling it around, higher speeds under braking requiring more strength), and I'd rather have a more open session with 8 "hot" laps than a crowded session with 12 laps.

    I also have always run warmers ever since I got them and would never go back, even for a track day. It adds safety, prevents you from making a boneheaded cold tire crash, removes the BS excuse of "oh my tires were cold" , and increases the amount of your track time that you can take advantage of. People here are talking about 2 laps to warm tires and they are the cost-conscious people it seems. If you can gain 2 hot laps per session, 7 sessions per day, and 5 or 6 track days a year, you've gained a FREE track day for a set of warmers. They cost about 250 used and can be sold for the same price when you are done with them

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    Re: 2015 Track Days Postings

    I completely agree about the warmers. I did my first trackday in years without warmers this year and hated it. Unfortunately power is not something every track gives away and the common mentality among trackday providers is "don't use warmers, they aren't needed". From now on, I'll just bring my own generator and let it run at full song all day in the parking lot.

    As for big bikes and being tired, I've run a 550lb 1200 around the track all day long instructing doing double sessions. It's no more tiring than a light bike. Remember, this isn't race pace.

    IMO, there is just as much "heavy traffic" in 15 minute sessions in both intermediates than in the single 20 minute session intermediate group. Even with 15 minute sessions, I was frustrated and really disappointed with how many clean laps I got in the first half of the day. As soon as I switched to the fastest group I started to enjoy the day.

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