Any benefit to a metal gas can?

[CEO]

Just curious, why do you take your waste oil all the way to autozone instead of just dumping it in the oil waste station @ the track?

I know the plastic VP cans are great, they're just another $50 and I'm trying to keep the race budget low. A lot of non-race expenses in my life recently went way up... basically doubled. My disposable income is a lot less, at least for the rest of this season.

I meant the oil changes that I do at home and not at the track, which is most of them.... autozone is like 5 minutes from my garage.

I got my VP plastic jug for like 35 bucks free shipping I think off of eBay... some discount racecar supply company or something.

["Dangerous" Dan K]

I meant the oil changes that I do at home and not at the track, which is most of them.... autozone is like 5 minutes from my garage.

I got my VP plastic jug for like 35 bucks free shipping I think off of eBay... some discount racecar supply company or something.

Gotcha. Cool shit on the plastic jug too, may be worth the investment. Then again w/ 2 weekends left and one too close to have it for anyway, I may as well just hold off and do something over the winter.

[seth399]

the vp dude at the track sells the plastic jugs w/hose for like 35-40 bucks too

["Dangerous" Dan K]

the vp dude at the track sells the plastic jugs w/hose for like 35-40 bucks too

No shit? Cool. Being the DIY/tweaker type that I am, I may enjoy rigging something over the winter though. Much like some oil cans and whatnot, rigging something so I could control how much fuel I put in without having to stop, look, stop, look would be cool. I've been trying to keep from coming in after a race with 2+ gallons still in the tank lately. It's a small detail, but the EX makes small HP. @ 6lbs/gallon, I'm coming in from a race with 12lbs of fuel in my bike, sloshing around the top part as I try to throw my 400+lb bike around. Every little bit helps and all that. Probably pointless, but it'll give me something else to do over the winter. Then when race season comes and I realize my homebrew gas can/dispensing system sucks, I can buy the VP jug I'll realize I should have bought this season

[Pittenger5]

On the EX Id fill it so it was just over the part on the bottom. That was enough for GTs, and probably still way more than enough.

["Dangerous" Dan K]

I'd been doing it that way. Then I brought it in last weekend and one of hte experts looked at it... turns out I damn near ran the thing empty. In a sprint. I was told had it been a GT I'd have most likely run out, and it was over the metal thing at the bottom. I'd say that maybe I forgot to fill it again after practice, but I did not run a single practice all weekend

[xsiliconkid]

Is there any benefit, aside from increased empty weight so it doesn't fly out of my open trailer when I'm too stupid to lash it down properly, to getting a metal gas can? Sears for a five-gallon plastic container.

Suggestions? Thoughts?

Short answer YES

There are benefits to METAL gas cans that seal properly over poly jugs
I wrote this a couple years back for LRRS web site

http://www.lrrsracing.com/spec_fuel_..._race_fuel.pdf


As much as 20% of the volatility can be lost in as little as 4 weeks sloshing around in a sealed plastic jug...... you might say, "I don't notice the difference", try it on a dyno compared to "fresh" fuel. Lap times DO notice it... those that race may sometimes wonder why laps times are off and then get better - sure it could be for many reason - why not eliminate this one. Ethanol does not hurt metal cans - VP Street Blaze 100 has 10% in it and they store it unopened in metal cans.

I notice "tired" fuel in race bikes all the time when fuel testing at NHMS against spec fuel rules and looking for forbidden substances such as propylene oxide, ethylene oxide, pyridoxine and any basic nitrogen or sulfur-bearing compounds (i.e. pyridine, aniline, pyrrole, dimethylsulfoxide, etc.). Some of the above substances are generally referred to as “rocket fuels”.
None of these substances are found in “spec” fuels.

It amazes me people use old fuel but spend a ton on money on other things to help them go fast.....

[xsiliconkid]

the vp dude at the track sells the plastic jugs w/hose for like 35-40 bucks too

But they don't sell the fuel in plastic.....race gas volatile components march even fast through the large open molecular structure of poly.

[seth399]

But they don't sell the fuel in plastic.....race gas volatile components march even fast through the large open molecular structure of poly.

Ya, I know I mentioned that earlier that storing the gas in metal is better than plastic container, dangerous dan had asked about actual jugs that are practical at the track though.

[Kurlon]

I just avoid this problem by using a plastic jug, and at the end of the weekend what didn't get burned goes into my truck.