NHMS T6 RP

[Marc R]

I know there are some great minds out there that can confirm this for me...

After cresting the T5 hill and while approaching T6, there is a crack that spans the width of the track and was repaired with some grey colored filler this year. The google earth image preceeds the repair, can you confirm if this is crack A or crack B.

Playing with my GPS logger, trying to figure out how well I'm using this RP.

Thanks.

[loudog]

I know there are some great minds out there that can confirm this for me...

After cresting the T5 hill and while approaching T6, there is a crack that spans the width of the track and was repaired with some grey colored filler this year. The google earth image preceeds the repair, can you confirm if this is crack A or crack B.

Playing with my GPS logger, trying to figure out how well I'm using this RP.

Thanks.

Hey Marc!

I'm pretty sure it's the second crack. I used to use that as well.

[The Snowman]

Marc, there are 2 cracks that almost trisect the width of the track. I stay 2/3 of the way to the right between the two and you run right over a short crack just before the tip in point.
(thanks to Gino for that tip)

It seems to be a pretty fast line into the bowl. Lou was following me on 9/27 and he said it seemed to be a better line than he was using.

[loudog]

Marc, there are 2 cracks that almost trisect the width of the track. I stay 2/3 of the way to the right between the two and you run right over a short crack just before the tip in point.
(thanks to Gino for that tip)

It seems to be a pretty fast line into the bowl. Lou was following me on 9/27 and he said it seemed to be a better line than he was using.

Yeah, Chuck the line you're using works well for me. I was able to pick up some time with it. I'll have to keep my eyes peeled for this short crack at tip in. That's where I'm a bit weak.

[CBR929RE]

I really should get some reference points. maybe I'll get faster if I actually pick some out.

[Marc R]

Thanks Lou!

I just added that crack RP as a "split" in the QRacing software and click the picture to see what I got.

The good news, my speed peeks at the brake RP. The bad, I stopped rolling-on the throttle as I try to find the crack -- I had no illusion that my work was done.

Hey Marc!

I'm pretty sure it's the second crack. I used to use that as well.

[Marc R]

Marc, there are 2 cracks that almost trisect the width of the track. I stay 2/3 of the way to the right between the two and you run right over a short crack just before the tip in point.
(thanks to Gino for that tip)

It seems to be a pretty fast line into the bowl. Lou was following me on 9/27 and he said it seemed to be a better line than he was using.

Chuck,

I know the 2 cracks you're talking about, I tend to be centered between them. I was looking at some video, but couldn't spot the short crack -- I'll proberbly figure it out during a warm up lap.

Thanks!

[BrianC]

I really should get some reference points. maybe I'll get faster if I actually pick some out.

[Doc]

Didn't I specifically go over this with you?

[BrianC]

Yeah but it's one thing to hear where the points are, and another to be able to actually start using them! I don't know about Brett, but for me practice is like shaking off the cob webs, and the race is just trying to survive (go as fast as possible w/out crashing) and finish the race hopefully ahead of some dudes! For me, ref. pts. is going to be a seat time type of thing where I'll actually start remembering and learning those little details. For example, this thread is talking about 2 cracks that I've never paid any attention to this entire season... but maybe another 100 laps and I'll start noticing and using them. It's a good topic for the forum and I like reading about where the other guys are going on the track. It's gonna be big for me next season to start putting this into practice.

Didn't I specifically go over this with you?

[loudog]

Thanks Lou!

I just added that crack RP as a "split" in the QRacing software and click the picture to see what I got.

The good news, my speed peeks at the brake RP. The bad, I stopped rolling-on the throttle as I try to find the crack -- I had no illusion that my work was done.

That's really cool Marc. I dig your systematic approach.

I've been sorting through my data too and have found a lot of spots that need work. Hopefully that'll help me pick up a second or two in the near future!

[Doc]

Yeah but it's one thing to hear where the points are, and another to be able to actually start using them! I don't know about Brett, but for me practice is like shaking off the cob webs, and the race is just trying to survive (go as fast as possible w/out crashing) and finish the race hopefully ahead of some dudes! For me, ref. pts. is going to be a seat time type of thing where I'll actually start remembering and learning those little details. For example, this thread is talking about 2 cracks that I've never paid any attention to this entire season... but maybe another 100 laps and I'll start noticing and using them. It's a good topic for the forum and I like reading about where the other guys are going on the track. It's gonna be big for me next season to start putting this into practice.

TRACKDAY!!

[Ken C]

Does the data system indicate when you will see God? That's when you really need to brake. :p

[Rada]

Does the data system indicate when you will see God? That's when you really need to brake. :p

I only go in until I see Elvis.

[brady]

I back off a little when I see God jumping out of the way.

[CBR929RE]

I have some reference points but no where near as many as people say you should have. And a lot of them I need to be out there riding, I can't tell anyone most of them of the top of my head. I go mostly on judging distances.

[lrrs313]

TRACKDAY!!

This. And a track walk or 3. Slowing down allows you to notice things you can use for reference points. Usually you can pick up a lot of them playing follow the leader in the Penguin Basic school, but where BrianC took it in the rain, it's a lot harder to see them.

[Rada]

Yup.
Several track walks with different leaders will point out things in the track that you had no idea about. I know Gino pointed out things that I never would have seen otherwise.

[catahoulabuldog]

you were looking good out there Marc! I hope the track walk helped!

[jtaylor719]

I only go in until I see Elvis.

If I see Elvis going into T6, that means I've just been lapped.

[Marc R]

... I hope the track walk helped!

Keith, those 10-20 seconds during the track walk when you talked about T6 RPs really changed that corner for me. Thanks!

When entering the braking zone and picking off a distant object (ie. T6 apex cone), it minimizes anxiety and the chances of expressing that anxiety to the brake lever (over braking). It took most of the day to break my old habit in T6 and picked-up more speed.

My RPs always moved forward around the track, but T6 might be one place that after heavy braking my RP needs to move from the apex cone to a closer RP. In particular, to apply the "2 trisecting cracks" that Chuck/Gino mentioned earlier.