Noob Track Rider- Question

[Degsy]

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Body positioning will be your friend

C'mon. That looks good but I can't believe it really buys you anything on a wing.

[jasnmar]

C'mon. That looks good but I can't believe it really buys you anything on a wing.

I'm about as far from an expert as you can imagine, but I will say that body position certainly has an impact on lean angle and possible line on a wing.

Changing the center of gravity is changing the center of gravity. On a bike with such a small lean angle it's perhaps more important.

Does it make a difference? Yes. Is it as much as with a sports bike? No idea. Feel free to come try it if you want.

[butcher bergs]

Nah dude...

Dude, she is a female last I checked.





Anyone know who the rider is on the silver Goldwang? I have that same suit!

[CBR929RE]

That I buy. Figuring out where to brake is going to be fear #1 for me.

Hey, in those videos (like G'mans) I see cones tipped over on the inside of corners. Are those suggested apex points or something?

dude your first couple of follow the leader sessions you'll probably be hitting the brakes at the start finish line from about 70mph if that. if I was doing 70 I'd probably just tip it into T1 without even looking at the brakes. You won't have a problem braking cause you probably won't be doing much the first couple sessions anyway. if at any point you feel the follow the leader session is too fast then slow down and let the group go. you can also pit in and talk to someone in charge and get hooked up with your very own instructor. If you're really worried as for your own Instructor before you even go out. Pretty sure Bomo or Tony's would be more than happy to get you a 1 on 1 if possible. trust those Control Riders, its actually fun for them helping new riders learn and improve. These guys are there to make your day less intimidating. Everything gets broken down to individual exercises really. Follow the leader is mostly about showing you where the track goes so you can build the map in your head. All the stuff that will help lower lap times can be only be learned once you know where the track goes.

we're really spoiled up here with good groups to ride with. I've been to other tracks with other clubs and not that they are necessarily bad but the attention paid to Novices is not up to the caliber of the groups here. Sure a happy rider will most likely be a repeat customer but I get the feeling that more of a secondary reason, the first being they just like to see people improve their skills and become better and safer riders.

[butcher bergs]

..if at any point you feel the follow the leader session is too fast then slow down and let the group go. you can also pit in and talk to someone in charge and get hooked up with your very own instructor. If you're really worried as for your own Instructor before you even go out. Pretty sure Bomo or Tony's would be more than happy to get you a 1 on 1 if possible. trust those Control Riders, its actually fun for them helping new riders learn and improve. These guys are there to make your day less intimidating...

Quoted for truth.

Make the most out of how you are spending your money. No need to ride frustrated, scared, etc when help is nothing more than a simple request away.

[TTD]

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Tony? Is this true? Have you ever had a day with zero crashes?

There hasn't been many, but I believe we've had a couple over the years.

However, there have been quite a few days where a particular group doesn't have a crash, so to riders in that group it would "feel" like it was an incident free day.

[Degsy]

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Tony? Is this true? Have you ever had a day with zero crashes?

There hasn't been many, but I believe we've had a couple over the years.

However, there have been quite a few days where a particular group doesn't have a crash, so to riders in that group it would "feel" like it was an incident free day.

Wow. Kudos.
We have had a 1 crash day. That's our best.

[nhbubba]

[Chippertheripper]

Yeah, what that stat doesn't say is it's usually the guy with new gear and a brand new duc, mv, something exotic that just DOESN'T LISTEN, and goes and tries to wick it up on the first lap in the morning.

And of course that cat is signed up for int/adv because he's like pro and shit.

Or it's the kid on the brand new (to him) motard that tries to set up the 1k that keeps ham fisting him on the straights and parking it in the corner...

[Chippertheripper]

I guess my point is: if you listen and take instruction well, you have nothing to worry about.

[TheIglu]

If you go into your trackday looking for speed, you'll have a bad time.

If you go into your trackday looking for expanding your abilities, speed and a good time will come to you.

[k_cotter]

this should not happen at a track day. ever.

I have some info for you from a new track rider to another. I tried the track last year and participated in 3 track events. In each one I crashed within 15 minutes of being on the track. Twice it ended my day. One time was with my street bike. That being said I will absolutely be back this year. If anything crashing encouraged me to get back out there.

Anyway, what i'm trying to get at is that you have to be prepared to crash both in gear and with your bike. Don't just get what's going to pass as far as boots, helmets and leathers. Get what your body is worth. Pushing your personal limits at the track is rewarding and risky. 95% of people on here are willing to take that risk for the sweet, sweet reward of pure ectasy that is riding a sportbike on the track. But, you want to mitigate the risk as much as possible with quality gear, a properly equipped bike, and the right attitude and knowledge of what your doing. Books car help. Check out "a twist of the wrist", "the upper half of the motorcycle", and "total control".

[e30addict]

Old, but still funny

[nhbubba]

Yeah, I know. I learn 90% of my behavior for yootoobe.

When I demonstrate how mind-blowingly good a rider I am, do I get bumped to the advanced group right away?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7iUKaPlBl8

Me and my V-Strom, yah know.

[brady]

If you go into your trackday looking for speed, you'll have a bad time.

If you go into your trackday looking for expanding your abilities, speed and a good time will come to you.

It's easy to fall into the newbie "group ride" syndrome on the track: get over excited, try to keep up, get into trouble.

Understand the temptation and learn to resist it. Then listen to all instructions, ride your own ride, take responsibility for your own safety as you would on the street, and have a blast.

[jasnmar]

No, outboard of the CB radio mounts.

I've honestly never seen 'wing lowside. Yootoobe isn't helpin' me out here either.

Just saw this posted and it reminded me of this thread. This is what happens when you exceed the wings lean angle http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2FYK...e_gdata_player

Chris, the Brit doing the filming, didn't realize that Jim had gone down for about 1/4 mile so missed some of the kerfluffle.

[nhbubba]

Oh man. Hey, at least everyone got a laugh from it. And no permanent injuries from the look of it.

[01xj]

I have read most of this thread seeking advice and I think I have a pretty clear mind going into my first track day next Monday. I went up to LRRS two weeks ago to get a feel for the track, watch the races and get a handle on where things are located. So hopefully I don't look like a total boob my first time up there. If I come up Monday night for the Tuesday TD, will I be able to find space to run an extension cord? I have no generator and I'm sleeping in my Jeep for Monday night.

[xsiliconkid]

you won't have a problem finding power or a spot to set up.
Either run a power cord from one of the garages or there is power all around the fence enclosing the garage area.
Also can come find one of us usually hanging out in the garage set aside for tech inspection.

[01xj]

Okay great. I saw the power by the fencing, that's where I planned on setting up pending space.

[TTD]

Also, consider getting to the track by 5:30PM on Monday so you can partake in the track walk.

[OreoGaborio]

[ctbandit]

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Also, consider getting to the track by 5:30PM on Monday so you can partake in the track walk.

If this an option timewise for you adam i'd def consider it, lots of good info and a unique perspective.

[nhbubba]

Also, consider getting to the track by 5:30PM on Monday so you can partake in the track walk.

Does that apply to any total outsider? Or just those signed up for Tuesday?

[01xj]

Also, consider getting to the track by 5:30PM on Monday so you can partake in the track walk.

Thanks Tony. I'm not sure it will be in the cards for this TD unfortunately. I learned where a few of the bumps and funny spots are by watching the guys at LRRS a few weeks ago.