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NYST not going down without a fight

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    Re: NYST not going down without a fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Dove View Post
    GXSR600's are cutting a cylinder and running a 450 class in AFM out west as well.
    Yep, a much cheaper way to compete than building a 20+ year old 400 racebike... ask me how I know...

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    Re: NYST not going down without a fight

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    ask me how I know...
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    Re: NYST not going down without a fight

    Lol. Oh something along the lines of four years, many blowed up engines and not much riding about sums it up....

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    Re: NYST not going down without a fight

    Does anybody have a true understanding of the legal issues here - I know what the protestors are arguing, but I came across an article from when the track first opened that says that there are no zoning laws in Harpersfield, but you do have to seek permission to "alter the land."

    So there's no "zoning commission" and apparently the planning board can't deny your application because they don't like the intended use - so that suggests they can't tell someone that they can't use a track that they have - much less limit engine size and attendees...the land is already altered - so maybe they could tell them they have to return it to it's previous state - if they argued that you didn't abide by the usage stipulations that the planning board put into place (but the planning board isn't supposed to care about usage to begin with....)

    So I'm confused on what leg the protestors have to stand on - unless the article is just off base...

    http://www.watershedpost.com/2013/ra...s-harpersfield

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    Re: NYST not going down without a fight

    'tard, I don't think any of us are qualified to answer that.

    I will add a comment that I think they did an exceptional job at managing the sound. I noticed when I was sitting in the pits that I could not hear the bikes AT ALL unless they were on the front straight, a mere 50' away from me. As soon as the bikes went around the first corner the sound almost vanished. A couple times I wondered if they'd thrown a red flag. Even the 'tards and ratty ass cafes. I noticed that they'd built up berms all along the front straight, undoubtedly where the noise will be the greatest. Couple that with the natural setting of being on top of a hill, higher than most of the land around them. I think the sound radiates up, not out to the houses around it.

    I have a very prominent drag strip and two local 3/8 mile ovals within earshot of my home. Come Friday and Saturday nights I understand what motorsport noise is all about. But neither manage it as well as NYST does.

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    Re: NYST not going down without a fight

    They violated the Open Meeting Law. Pretty much the jist of it. Everything else came after.

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    Re: NYST not going down without a fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Dove View Post
    GXSR600's are cutting a cylinder and running a 450 class in AFM out west as well.
    Imbelievable. http://www.450triple.com

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    Re: NYST not going down without a fight

    I don't believe there will be any way for the townspeople to shut down the track given those facts, as well as the revenue the area is starting to see from it.

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    Re: NYST not going down without a fight

    nhbubba, you were there on a very quiet day. What was there maybe 40 riders total? But I do agree, it is not that bad even on a full day. I wish I had been there to meet you, but I had to go and throw it away the day before.

    Funny thing I overheard at the motel was some townsfolk talking about the noise when it originally opened, and how quiet it has been lately since they have started deactivating cylinders on the motorbikes.

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    Re: NYST not going down without a fight

    Yes. Very quiet day. ~40 riders sounds right. Maybe my experience is abnormal.

    But I was very impressed with the place.

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    Re: NYST not going down without a fight

    Why dont they try and enforce a max DB level like MX tracks do? It couldn't hurt, and would at least show they are trying. That small town seems hyper focused on what the track does.

    I wonder if the track could survive temporarily on 250cc clientele for a short period. Bet the track would be fun on a 250 2-stroke supermoto.

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    Re: NYST not going down without a fight

    600 performance out of a 250. Hmmmmmmmm!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Maybe they are all for the smokers.


    Lets see them complain about the CC size with these.

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    Re: NYST not going down without a fight

    Who used to run a 250GP machine in the dash?

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    Re: NYST not going down without a fight

    Quote Originally Posted by Ductard View Post
    Does anybody have a true understanding of the legal issues here - I know what the protestors are arguing, but I came across an article from when the track first opened that says that there are no zoning laws in Harpersfield, but you do have to seek permission to "alter the land."

    So there's no "zoning commission" and apparently the planning board can't deny your application because they don't like the intended use - so that suggests they can't tell someone that they can't use a track that they have - much less limit engine size and attendees...the land is already altered - so maybe they could tell them they have to return it to it's previous state - if they argued that you didn't abide by the usage stipulations that the planning board put into place (but the planning board isn't supposed to care about usage to begin with....)

    So I'm confused on what leg the protestors have to stand on - unless the article is just off base...

    http://www.watershedpost.com/2013/ra...s-harpersfield
    Not zoned, does not imply you can do anything you like with the land..
    My understanding:
    Quite simply... you must apply to the town planning board re: use of the land with enough detail so the town folk can understand intended use.
    Initially the plan submitted was for small bikes in limited numbers.
    Also the town did not vote - the planning board approved (against state law).

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    Re: NYST not going down without a fight

    Quote Originally Posted by nt650hawk View Post
    600 performance out of a 250. Hmmmmmmmm!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Maybe they are all for the smokers.


    Lets see them complain about the CC size with these.
    Maybe I can rent out the 125!!

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    I think maybe spark plug wires can be hooked up again. From NYST Facebook:

    Thank you for your support! With your help we just won a crucial court case yesterday afternoon. For everyone who made it to the hearing that day we'll have a special announcement and event just for you. To those who couldn't make it, we continuosly thank you for everything you've done to support NYST and look forward to seeing you all here soon!

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    Re: NYST not going down without a fight

    Anyone have any details about what was won or what had been on the table?

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    Re: NYST not going down without a fight

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    Anyone have any details about what was won or what had been on the table?
    http://www.nestreetriders.com/forum/...highlight=nyst

    If you can't see that, now's the time to become a NESR Premium Member. We moved the original NYST thread to the Primium Pit to avoid futher public access to what we were talking about.

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    Re: NYST not going down without a fight

    Quote Originally Posted by OreoGaborio View Post
    http://www.nestreetriders.com/forum/...highlight=nyst

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    ha thanks Pete hadnt seen that move over there.

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    Re: NYST not going down without a fight

    you, you, Chicken killers.

    "They’ve run over chickens on our road, and they don’t even stop.”

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    I hope they play ball and get some supporters elected to those two seats.

    Get your speedbumps, ahhhh...chickens out of the motorway.

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    Re: NYST not going down without a fight

    Quote Originally Posted by xsiliconkid View Post
    you, you, Chicken killers.

    "They’ve run over chickens on our road, and they don’t even stop.”
    Saw that & laughed... not because someone ran over their chickens & didn't stop (that's sad), but because this woman automatically thinks we ALL run over chickens. WTF, lady?

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    Woman: You ran over my Chickens!!!
    Motorcyclist: They were on the road.
    Woman: You killed my chickens!!
    Motorcyclist: If you tell me how many chickens I hit, I'll pay for both of them.
    Woman: Three!!!

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