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Quick question about buying a track bike

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    Re: Quick question about buying a track bike

    BTW: Budget for a trailer and suitable tow vehicle too. I have never brought so much crap to the track as I have since I bought this track toy. Spares, tools, extra lid, backup gloves, a man has to sit somewhere, and track days give me the munchies or something.

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    Re: Quick question about buying a track bike

    Quote Originally Posted by nhbubba View Post
    BTW:track days give me the munchies.
    Yes, at first. As you get into the later stages, you won't have time or money to eat. I look like a happily deranged shipwreck survivor when I drag home from the track, sunburned, fragrant, filthy and about ten pounds lighter than when I set out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carsick View Post
    ...fragrant...
    Ah, yes. I've firmly entered this stage. I've discovered that merino wool base layer + my BO => unpleasantness. My apologies to all around me for BoMo yesterday.

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    Re: Quick question about buying a track bike

    Quote Originally Posted by Garandman View Post
    Fucking amateurs.

    Track days are safety training. A track bike is a safer bike for that safety training.

    It's for the children.



    Not without pictures, it isn't!
    I loooove that! Thank you for the brilliant excuse, I mean explanation!

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    Re: Quick question about buying a track bike

    What percentage of bikes are setup with GP pattern shifts versus the regular pattern? I wasn't expecting it would make that much of a difference, but even my day on the VFR (in pissing rain) at NHMS had me thinking "Fuck it's hard to upshift right now".

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    Yoooooou're the dude with the red gen 5 that ran Tony's on the 28th? Most excellent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by number9 View Post
    What percentage of bikes are setup with GP pattern shifts versus the regular pattern? I wasn't expecting it would make that much of a difference, but even my day on the VFR (in pissing rain) at NHMS had me thinking "Fuck it's hard to upshift right now".
    67.32%

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    Run GP. It's easy to do (shit that comes from me, you should be able to do it with your eyes closed) and well worth it.

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    Re: Quick question about buying a track bike

    I did a track day or 2 and run gp, I actually like it better for street riding as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhbubba View Post
    Yoooooou're the dude with the red gen 5 that ran Tony's on the 28th? Most excellent.
    Nope, mine is yellow. Sorry!

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    Re: Quick question about buying a track bike

    CS and I both run standard on all 3 CMP bikes.

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    Re: Quick question about buying a track bike

    I run Reg shift on my SV the only place where it really becomes a bit of an issue is at the apex of 7 when I need to upshift and I have gotten around that by just holding the throttle a bit longer and making the shift as I toss it over for 8.

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    Ginger.. how do you handle going up the hill through T4? I find I need a shift there and can't until I recenter my body. I've been told GP-shift helps here.

    Wait, you shift under the treehouse?! Weird.

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    Re: Quick question about buying a track bike

    no not that far into 8... right about at the flop from left to right. T4 I grab my shift a bit after the apex while its still leaned over but coming back up. I bring my body back up as the bike comes up and grab the shift right about as the bike tachs out

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    Re: Quick question about buying a track bike

    Quote Originally Posted by NH848 View Post
    My wife recently told me I have had enough riding days to make up for all of the times I watched the kids so she could go on a trip with her girlfriends. Anyone want to guess how many "riding days" I've actually had?
    2?

    Solution: "Kids, mommy is going away with her friends, which means we get to spend some quality time camping!" <loads bike into trailer>

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    Re: Quick question about buying a track bike

    I'm sure this is a stupid question, but: do you need a lap timer to run in practice sessions? Or do you only need a race license and a bike that will pass tech?

    (edit) I think I meant to say "transponder" not "lap timer".

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    Re: Quick question about buying a track bike

    Timer / transponder not required for Thur open practice or Friday Penguin practice. On LRRS weekends a transponder is required if going onto a hot track.

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    Re: Quick question about buying a track bike

    Quote Originally Posted by Kurlon View Post
    Timer / transponder not required for Thur open practice or Friday Penguin practice. On LRRS weekends a transponder is required if going onto a hot track.
    Thanks Kurlon!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsorfas View Post
    Run GP. It's easy to do (shit that comes from me, you should be able to do it with your eyes closed) and well worth it.
    Stupid question - I don't suppose there's any way to make a motard shift with a GP pattern, is there? (if even possible, any "way" that involves the words "crack the case," "MIG," or "TIG" doesn't count.) In my dream world someone has created some weird lever/linkage that you could bolt on to do the job....

    The reason isn't that it would be important on the 'tard per se, but I'm currently running a GSX-R too, often the races are almost back to back. I see potential problems by switching one and not the other.

    ...plus I want to be able to go over to Dove's garage and say "Oh...you have standard shift on your KTM?...I'm sorry man." Then just look disgusted and walk away.

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    You can either rig a linkage system, er, sorry, that involves fab work... Alternatively if you get a reverse pattern shift drum... and that's splitting the cases, crap!

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    Re: Quick question about buying a track bike

    Quote Originally Posted by Kurlon View Post
    You can either rig a linkage system, er, sorry, that involves fab work... Alternatively if you get a reverse pattern shift drum... and that's splitting the cases, crap!

    Dude, don't act like I didn't give you any options. I'm a duct tape ninja and have recently acquired safety-wiring capabilities. C'mon put some effort into it and use your imagination. :-p

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    this thread is full of great responses!

    reminds me of an editorial in dirt bike magazine from the mid 90's - one guy's story of getting his enduro bike involved having a conversation with his wife, that it was okay, so long as he won it for free. so he got a magazine subscription a few months in advance, created a fake "contest", that he designed himself, printed, and used as an insert in the magazine, pretended like he "won" said contest, put a deposit down on a bike 4 hours away, and brought it home without his wife really knowing how he got it

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    Nobody should ever take relationship advice from me. But forgiveness >>> permission.

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    Re: Quick question about buying a track bike

    If you don't downshift for 6 you won't have to up shift in 7. Stock gearing on an SV will also have you going through 4 and almost done with it before you need an up shift.

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    When I gave my girlfriend a tour of my house we came to a room behind the garage which was being used as a tv lounge. She took one look at that room and said "We could fill this room with motorcycles". She's now my wife! After our first track day she has been on ebay and Craigslist searching for a pair of track bikes. We cannot buy anything right now and she knows it. I'm dying to grab a few of the sv 650's that are available right now.

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    Re: Quick question about buying a track bike

    Quote Originally Posted by sedanman View Post
    When I gave my girlfriend a tour of my house we came to a room behind the garage which was being used as a tv lounge. She took one look at that room and said "We could fill this room with motorcycles". She's now my wife! After our first track day she has been on ebay and Craigslist searching for a pair of track bikes. We cannot buy anything right now and she knows it. I'm dying to grab a few of the sv 650's that are available right now.
    You Sir, I envy.

    Some day I will have this pleasure!

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