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    Re: Track bikes for large humans?

    I rode it last season.



    The issue is that I tore a ligament in my left knee playing lacrosse in college. That was a long time ago - 1975. It's held up well through a lot of activities (like being an Army paratrooper, aerobics instructor, etc etc), and in fact I play in an over 50 hockey league and an over 40 lacrosse league. But I've lost some range of motion when the knee is bent up all the way, and that has gotten worse.

    It hurts when I sit on it and put the ball of my foot on the pegs. But "warming up" the knee with some heat and exercise may make it OK. I'm going to register the bike for the road an ride it to work a couple of times and see how it feels. If it's not possible, I'll sell the SV and get something bigger like the Bandit, another V-Strom etc.

    The SV only has about 2,000 miles on it and I bought it used so it's not going to be a big deal to sell it. It's going to be a wicked nice bike for someone if I do sell it. My son is only 8 and it's not worth keeping for him.

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    Re: Track bikes for large humans?

    How much did you raise your seat height? I raised mine a little over an inch. It really made my knees much happier. It also made it easier for me to get my upper body down. I find it easier for me to move around on the bike in general.

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    Re: Track bikes for large humans?

    Last season I used the stock seat. It was tight so I had a seat made:


    But the Gel seat seems to be thicker still.

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    Re: Track bikes for large humans?


    Not a close up but here you can see the lift kit that I made for the stock seat.

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    Re: Track bikes for large humans?

    Enough shenanigans. Just go grab a big motard. Sm610, 690smc, or one of them über fancy 990motardish things. You can thank me later. (by letting me take a spin on it)

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    Re: Track bikes for large humans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Garandman View Post
    If you look at cycle-ergo.com...
    Very, very cool site..

    Good luck getting this all sorted out and getting back on track... literally!

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    Re: Track bikes for large humans?

    So it appears my left knee has now degraded enough that I can't comfortably ride it even with the built up seat. Ironic since I bought it from a guy who had injured his knee.

    The SV market seems pretty price conscious and the conventional wisdom is to take off all aftermarket parts to sell. Especially with the Penske costing around $900, this seems to make sense.

    Think I should take the Penske off and put the stock shock back on, or try to sell it as it sits? I haven't installed the SS brake lines or tail. Bike still has less than 2,000 miles on it. I'd leave the cartridge emulators in place either way: not that expensive and more effort to remove.

    Guesstimates on a fair asking price? KBB gives a retail of $4,750 and a trade-in of around $3,400 in Excellent condition. Split the difference and that's $4,075 but the few for sale seem to be much higher. Expected mileage for a 2008 is around 6,500.

    May just put it on eBay, that worked OK for a KLR. My old V-Strom sold in one day off Advrider, don't think that's going to happen.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chippertheripper View Post
    Enough shenanigans. Just go grab a big motard. Sm610, 690smc, or one of them über fancy 990motardish things. You can thank me later. (by letting me take a spin on it)
    I like twins.....Maybe have to strip the plastics off a DL1000....

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    Re: Track bikes for large humans?

    The ones for sale may be priced higher but I bet the ones that have SOLD were Under $4k.

    Pull off the Penske and sell it separate and the whole thing will be easier.

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    I'd definitely remove the aftermarket bits were I you, either way. I personally wouldn't pay a penny for your upgrades. And I normally feel a 100% stock example is more desirable.

    I haven't been watching SV's, only DL's. But my feel is that the SVs are far, far more common and turn over far more often. Thus I suspect you'll have to undercut everything else on the market to turn a quick sale. I don't think your SV will be near as easy to move as your DL was.

    That said, my perception is that you keep your bikes very clean. It is appalling to me how few people do this. And so you may get away with a premium for the cleanliness. I got several comments from the guy who bought mine about how clean my bike was compared to everyone else out there, which surprised the hell out of me as I thought the dings and dents from 10 years of tip-overs and scuffs were embarrassingly awful.

    I just looked at a DL1000 the other day that was advertised as clean, but had obviously been crashed. Not tipped over, but no shit crashed. Was an '05 with RUST too. Incredible.

    Best of luck.

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    Re: Track bikes for large humans?

    You may want offer two prices, one with and one without. Lets the buyer know you have that in case he is looking for an upgraded bike.

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    Re: Track bikes for large humans?

    Sew, I'm riding it today and I don't think I'm going to be able to do laps like this.

    Are there any aftermarket peg sets that could be used to move the pegs forward and down? If not I'm probably done with this bike after having ridden it a whopping 600 miles. I'll just break 2,000 on the odo today.

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    Re: Track bikes for large humans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Garandman View Post
    Sew, I'm riding it today and I don't think I'm going to be able to do laps like this.

    Are there any aftermarket peg sets that could be used to move the pegs forward and down? If not I'm probably done with this bike after having ridden it a whopping 600 miles. I'll just break 2,000 on the odo today.
    FWIW. I can barely stand to ride my SV more than 15 miles at a clip on the road. But on the track I have no problem making a session in relative comfort.

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    Re: Track bikes for large humans?

    Well, new developments. Apparently Buell XB footpegs can be made to fit and lower the position almost an inch. And SV Racing parts makes a bracket that can be reversed to move the pegs forward and down.

    All a slippery slope as my feet are also size 12EE so putting them lower and forward may lead to clearance problems. But that's a good problem to have relative to sitting home....

    Gladius but stock pegs:



    Buell pegs.

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    Re: Track bikes for large humans?

    Have you done anything with the subframe yet? The 2003 subframe raises the seat about an inch. Between that and the Buell pegs, you've got another 2 inches of leg room.

    If the opportunity presents itself, I can let you try mine out to see if you like it any better.

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    Would that entail replacing the subframe?

    I've got the seat raised quite a bit with the gel seat - would the subframe raise it further? Does it change the location of the pegs?

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    Re: Track bikes for large humans?

    Yes. Replacing your subframe with one from a 2003 SV would raise the tail & seat, by about an inch.


    2004+
    If you look at the top front mount (top right in the photo below), you can see how the rail drops down about an inch.



    The 2003 doesn't have that drop. It's more like this aftermarket subframe.

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    Re: Track bikes for large humans?

    Have to go buy a 12mm drill to finish modifying them, but it looks like the Buell XB footpegs wll give me enough room to ride the bike!

    MAy even just put one on the left, don't really need it for the right.

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    Re: Track bikes for large humans?

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    Re: Track bikes for large humans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Garandman View Post
    So it appears my left knee has now degraded enough that I can't comfortably ride it even with the built up seat. Ironic since I bought it from a guy who had injured his knee.

    The SV market seems pretty price conscious and the conventional wisdom is to take off all aftermarket parts to sell. Especially with the Penske costing around $900, this seems to make sense.

    Think I should take the Penske off and put the stock shock back on, or try to sell it as it sits? I haven't installed the SS brake lines or tail. Bike still has less than 2,000 miles on it. I'd leave the cartridge emulators in place either way: not that expensive and more effort to remove.

    Guesstimates on a fair asking price? KBB gives a retail of $4,750 and a trade-in of around $3,400 in Excellent condition. Split the difference and that's $4,075 but the few for sale seem to be much higher. Expected mileage for a 2008 is around 6,500.

    May just put it on eBay, that worked OK for a KLR. My old V-Strom sold in one day off Advrider, don't think that's going to happen.

    I like twins.....Maybe have to strip the plastics off a DL1000....
    go to cycle-ergo.com and compare the sv to the ktm 990 super duke.

    let me know if you want to sit on one.

    while i love mine i have to many bikes and not enough time to ride them all so mine is for sale.

    here's a pic of it before without bar risers on it.

    imho: the bar risers made it the bike i wanted it to be!


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    Re: Track bikes for large humans?

    So next week?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhbubba View Post
    So next week?
    Your profile doesn't say how old you are.

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    Buell pegs on!

    Signed up for TTD July 25 & 26!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garandman View Post
    Buell pegs on!

    Signed up for TTD July 25 & 26!
    Cool beans man. See you there.

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