Using Your Own Bike at a TD

[Kham]

so, you call me a cocksucker repeatedly (which in and of itself makes me want to bury my size 12 boot so far up your ass you'd need it surgically extracted), then tell me to shut up, and then I ask you to explain yourself?


where the fuck is that ignore button..

listen, my mistake. when i said cocksucker, i meant the cop. no not all of them. are you a cop? then you started with me.

find the ignore button yet?

[butcher bergs]

Kham comin' out swingin' tonight ladies and gentlemen!

[BMFR6]

it's like vintage kham!

[Cerberus]

listen, my mistake. when i said cocksucker, i meant the cop. no not all of them. are you a cop? then you started with me.

find the ignore button yet?

yes i did. i had to un-ignore you to be able to read this.

from my perspective, you started with me.

i'm over it.
moving on..

[Kham]

kham trackdays are about advanced rider training period. nothing has to be special about it, i feel everyone on two wheels should do it no matter the bike. given some of the rides I've been on (and lead) with the same group of people you ride with, we could all use every bit of training we can get. every single thing I've learned at a trackday I can directly apply to the street, and I don't go fast enough to drag my knee on the street.

i said "special ed" is a joke.

give example on some o fthe people that needs "advanced training" on street. what exactly did they do wrong and what exactly is advanced technique you apply on the street? if someone apply different technique than you, are they not able to keep up? is there really only 1 right way? when you go around the curve at speed limit, do you apply the advanced hanging off technique?

only thing i can tell you is i read a book and apply the technics on street. ok? that's how i learn. im not against trackday. if i could i would blah blah blah... feel like repeating myself all the time.

[Kham]

quiet berg. so you think i just started swinging? comon im not suidal.

[eboos]

i said "special ed" is a joke.

give example on some o fthe people that needs "advanced training". what exactly did they do wrong and what exactly is advanced technique you apply on the street? if someone apply different technique than you, are they not able to keep up? is there really only 1 right way? when you go around the curve at speed limit, do you apply the advanced hanging off technique?

only thing i can tell you is i read a book and apply the technics on street. ok? that's how i learn. im not against trackday. if i could i would blah blah blah... feel like repeating myself all the time.

When coming across something unexpected in the street, things like quicker turn in, better braking, being able to feel what your tires are doing, quicker transitioning from one side to the other and so on would be valuable tools to have. These are things that you can learn and practice on the track, but can save your ass if you need to whip them out on the street.

[butcher bergs]

quiet berg. so you think i just started swinging? comon im not suidal.

You gonna come to the Drunken Bowl-a-thon?

[Kham]

When coming across something unexpected in the street, things like quicker turn in, better braking, being able to feel what your tires are doing, quicker transitioning from one side to the other and so on would be valuable tools to have. These are things that you can learn and practice on the track, but can save your ass if you need to whip them out on the street.

something i remembered from here awhile ago. the best way is to avoid putting yourself in a situation that would lead to unexpected situation. like dont just gun it on blind corner. i think i said it wrong. somebody correct me.

edit: remember, im ALSO talking about riding on the street by the rules and fun in same sentence.

[Kham]

You gonna come to the Drunken Bowl-a-thon?

only if im allow to start swinging.

[eboos]

Unexpected situations only become problems if you are not skilled enough, or prepared, to handle them properly. That's where you will get the benefit of exploring your skills with the safety margin that a closed course offers.

[Kham]

ok thank you.

[Doc]

eboos is handling this nicely. Now will Kham see the light?

Kham I see what your saying... You can ride the street and still learn. You can stay within YOUR defined limits on the street and have fun.

What others are saying is that you can learn somethings faster and safer on the track. You can explore closer to the limit a little more safely and dare I say in a more appropriate environment (the track).

You will then have those skills in reserve to use when you least expect it, like going around that blind corner at a sedate pace but having a car parked in the middle of the corner causing you to have to explore the limits of traction as you brake or the ability to turn quickly without thinking as much.

You can learn these things from books (limited without practice), in a parking lot (practice but with no instruction), on the street (practice withut instruction and not all that safe), at the track (good practice with some instruction) or in a class/course (good practice with instruction).

[GixerJockey]

My bike is faster than Kham's...

[Kham]

eboos is handling this nicely. Now will Kham see the light?

Kham I see what your saying... You can ride the street and still learn. You can stay within YOUR defined limits on the street and have fun.

not YOUR defined limits on street. the law limits. oh so you're law breaking like me then. that's good. you haven't figure out ima squid?

What others are saying is that you can learn somethings faster and safer on the track. You can explore closer to the limit a little more safely and dare I say in a more appropriate environment (the track).

i know what they are saying but what im saying is you dont need it if you ride by the rules on street.

like going around that blind corner at a sedate pace but having a car parked in the middle of the corner causing you to have to explore the limits of traction as you brake or the ability to turn quickly without thinking as much.

wait... all i can tell you is that if i don't do double speed around blind corner,i can handle it.

[jc r6]

Unexpected situations only become problems if you are not skilled enough, or prepared, to handle them properly. That's where you will get the benefit of exploring your skills with the safety margin that a closed course offers.

Well said

[jc r6]

ok doc, just bring your bike and i show you but somebody need to keep the cops away during that time.

That just made me laugh....calm down...everybody that just rides street thinks the're super fast and skilled...i did...till i started going to the track...i was humbled and thankful for the skills i was/am able to learn

oh and BTW you may not know me but i rode with you before...still have that radar dectector on your bike?

[Doc]

everybody that just rides street thinks the're super fast and skilled...i did...till i started going to the track...i was humbled and thankful for the skills i was/am able to learn

Plus one.

Hell Kham I'll pay for 1/2 your trackday if you go to one I am at.

[Kham]

That just made me laugh....calm down...everybody that just rides street thinks the're super fast and skilled...i did...till i started going to the track...i was humbled and thankful for the skills i was/am able to learn

oh and BTW you may not know me but i rode with you before...still have that radar dectector on your bike?

im calm as clam. not saying anything about super fast or anything. we were talking about doing speed limit on street and applying advanced skills?

yea still got radar. im paranoid without it. well then see you next summer.

[jc r6]

well then see you next summer.

I don't ride street anymore ....i did a ride you were at in 06 before i moved to Tenessee.

I'll see you if you take Doc up on his 1/2 off trackday offer

[Kham]

Plus one.

Hell Kham I'll pay for 1/2 your trackday if you go to one I am at.

so you can teach me a lesson? you trying to trick me?

[Kham]

I don't ride street anymore ....i did a ride you were at in 06 before i moved to Tenessee.

in 06? i remembered R6 but there's a lot of them. im probly still a noob back then. lately i have been practicing a lot on clover leaf.

[Kham]

im probly gonna make a trackday this summer. dont know yet.

[jc r6]

lately i have been practicing a lot on clover leaf.

Is that some kind of new drug the kids are doing?

[Kham]

haha... you want some? it's not like the real thing but it's all there is around here.