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Sad, you have to wonder what he was riding. My boys will not be on a street bike until they have enough track and dirt time under there belts to have respect for a bike. When I was working at RPM in Savannah we had a 16 year old kid die on a almost 200hp zx12 we had built for his brother. It was his first time on a bike and he let him take it out for his birthday. Stupid. There should be different levels of motorcycle licenses for different types of bikes. You cannot drive a 18 wheeler with a standard drivers license you should not be allowed on an R1 with a learners permit and no experience. Kids and fast bikes do not mix.
RIP very sad
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I hate to judge, but the helmet came off in the crash? Might as well not be wearing one.
Regardless, its a sad event.
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Originally Posted by Pookie
How fast do you have to be going to have your bike skid 80 feet and then the length of a football field? This is incredibly sad, but I have to say that no child of mine will be riding a motorcycle at 16.
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It was a 93 CBR600.
He may have survived if he had either a helmet that fit correctly, or was properly fastened.
Riding on a permit, means he either has not taken an MSF class or failed it.
that stood out most for me...who know's what would have happened if he had a helmet that fit on
he skid 80 the bike slid the 300+ feet...not uncommon... i looped at wheelie at 60-70 the same thing happened....bikes slid forever it seems
Very Sad RIP....
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...sad...
....and the tough part of the early season cycle begins...not the first...not the last...
and the all too predictable flurry of observations.
truth, lessons learned, pain and anger....we all get to choose our own ration of each
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Tragic event in all, but I don't think a 16yr old should be riding on the street. When I was younger I was way to knew to riding to be able to even drive a car and a bike. Yet NH and Ma seem to think its ok to give anyone over 16 a permit to ride a bike with no experience. It should be mandatory to take the course for everyone under 21 in my opinion. I have seen to many fall and to many go from this earth that where not even 21.
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I started riding street at 16 too... on a 175cc bike... and crashed in my first mile.
Fortunately, a 175cc bike kept my pace tame and the crash was minor.
Proper education, minimizing bike power, and proper gear are all good ways to minimize these incidents.
I was riding at 16. Didn't get my car license until I was 18. 16 is plenty old enough to know better.
It doesn't matter how old someone is. Going too fast is going too fast regardless of age.
RIP kid.
Mistakes cost a lot more on a bike than they do a car. Things happen like this that remind everyone that things can and do go wrong. Sometimes you can prevent it, sometimes you can't.
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RIP. It's a sad situation.
I am also for no person under the age of 18 ( prefereably 20 ) on a motorcycle. Something about being 10' tall and bullet proof.
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Yeah but anyone even a current rider can tell you how much more we know now then we did then. I road at 18 and had no incidents and I was lucky and a bit scared at the time. Which was good. Problem these days is most kids are fearless and it gets them hurt. If a person is truly good at driving then a class will prove that. Problem with Ma and NH is we just give a permit out, no class, no test no nothing, its like saying go ahead and practice on the streets with traffic but only in daylight. Its stupid and needs to be changed, instinct only comes with time driven no matter what you drive and the power of these machines is hard to resist and when something goes wrong then those instincts your are lacking will cost you dearly
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16 is old enough...the problem is the lack of training....
10min written test and $15 gets the right to operate anything on 2 wheels in mass....16 or 60 thats a reciepe for disaster
I don't mind a 16yr old driver I just think if under 21 they should have to take the class to get there license no permit allowed. After 21 then its up to that person as by that age there driving skills should be better honed from driving a car. Better instincts per say
You can truly never die until you have learned to live
When i lived in England the insurance company's regulated what you could drive by your age, experience and driving record. It seemed to work out good for them. for your first bike you had to get something slow or you could not get insurance on it.
Does not work to well in NH since we don't require insurance if you own your bike outright.
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My girlfriend went to high school with his older brother. It's a very sad thing. R.I.P
Exactly.
There is no difference between a 16 year old with no experience and a 30 year old with no experience.
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Definitely sad. I know when I was 16 that's what I wanted. I only got my drivers license so I could get my bike permit / license.
One thing I am definitely thankful for, that I know has saved my skin a few times on the street...dear old dad being into the toys as well. I had been riding dirt since I was 10 or so. Some of the best experience to have under the belt if you ask me.
Another thing I think needs to change, dealerships need to stop selling inexperienced people too much bike. But you know...money talks. Parents also need to do a little more research into just what their kids are asking for. Not saying this is the case for Ryan...older CBR600 isn't a brand new 600. Or litre bike. It's not a bad first bike at all. I even had a CBR600 for my first bike.
Tiered licensing...engine size limits..etc. I'm all for it.
RIP Ryan
I was on the road last year when I was 17, it's a bit scary at first but I took it slow and taking the MSF course before I even rode the bike.
Started with a F4i, not exactly the recommended starter bike but I managed.
(no crazy stuff here...okay, I took it up to 100 on the highway once on a nice day when it was completely clear of cars). Always full gear.
I had some experience driving a fast car before I had the bike, about 1 year of driving with a 400hp sport sedan. I know how to control power, and know the right times to use it.
Even so, it's still a bit scary on the bike with all the cars around you.
I'd say require the MSF course to get a permit, just like they require the Driver's Ed course to get your license if you're under 18.
With a class D permit, you have to drive with your parents, but if you're alone on your bike it's a different story.
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Agree to disagree. A lot.
It's all water under the bridge, and we do enter the next round-robin. Am I wrong?
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