17" sumo wheels for a 2 stroke dirt bike

[Petorius]

Any real value to a set of 17" wheels for a 2t plated woods bike?

[Chippertheripper]

Unless you're planning on running boxshop, my .02 is: nope.
But that's me.

[Kurlon]

Have you been peeking in my garage again?

Which plated woodsy fog machine we talking about in particular?

[Petorius]

200 EXC

[Kurlon]

So yeah, those will swap onto just about any Katooom IIRC, nice! A set with 90/10 dual sport tires mounted would be nice for my 300 so I don't eat the knobbies up hooliganing around town...

[Petorius]

I don't have any of these things in my possession yet, unfortunately. Just trying to compare things I'm seeing/have seen on CL

[xxaarraa]

I had a KDX220 a couple years ago, for a couple months. The thing was a hooligan on coccaine. It was plated and I even did a couple of short highway trips on it, to get to the woods. I have to say that despite the 2 stroke power and light weight, it was not meant for any meaningful sporty/track riding.

Don't know anything about KTMs, but from my single data point, I'd say a 200 is inadequate for sumo use? You'd be hard pressed to find the right sumo gearing for little woods bikes (I was able to squeeze in a 14t countersprocket, but that was the max size for that bike, and 15 would have been better)

[R7]

I had sm wheels on my xcw200 smoker, while it was fun and had plenty if power, the engine vibrations were unbearable. That was the only downfall in my opinion.
The bike was super fun on the track being so light

[Petorius]

Sounds like chipper nailed it.

[breakdirt916]

value - small tracks, around town, and wheelies





freeway - it'll do it, but hates it...everything wears out prematurely (particularly crank/bearings)

so if you don't do it much, imho the $$ that goes into it isn't worth it...I have a sportsman setup (street tires on oem dirt rims) that came w' the bike...but I rarely swap 'em...

so imho - leave it as a dirt bike

[Beinggodisgreat]

Sounds like chipper nailed it.

I was looking to get some for my 96 CR250. No place to ride it I just want a back up track bike

[nhbubba]

Biggest problem swapping wheels is gearing. Setup the bike to do highways on a 17" wheel and the chain won't be long enough to wrap around an off-road sized sprocket for your 18" dirt setup. Flip the table and the opposite is true too. You'll have a sumo that is not fast (is quick, but not fast). Or you'll have an off-roader that is a handful and wears you out because it is geared too high. Or worse, you'll gear for a compromise and it will be a compromise everywhere you ride it.

This is part of why I bought my 200 XC-W, so I could gear my DRZ for the street and be done with it.

[breakdirt916]

+1

separate those duties...

[Kurlon]

Bah, swapping clip master chains takes almost no time at all. I used to keep sprockets and chains bagged together on my minis just to speed up gearing changes.

[nhbubba]

swapping clip master chains takes almost no time at all

My experience is different. I have a clip type master on my chain. I found I have to press the plates on with my chain tool. Thus they are nearly impossible to remove afterwards. You still need the clip, but the master cannot be removed by hand.

It isn't as easy as it sounds. I've tried it and found 2 bikes to be worthwhile.

[nhbubba]

That said.. I did get my new toy (200 XC-W) a lot more pavement time this weekend than I had anticipated. It isn't half bad. The vibes Mark talks about aren't that bad, really. The bike is so frickin' light and just vanishes under you. The 2-stroke power delivery is a full on trip. I could see this being big fun for a short, in-town commute.

Oh the stupid things you could get ticketed for!

And this is with "woods" gearing on knobbies. I have no idea how it is geared. But on pavement you leave from a dead stop in 2nd with hardly any fan of the clutch. You roll into the power, then quick shift 3-4-5-6.. then cruise. I had fun gapping the rider in front of me and then flogging it WFO until it hit "the pipe" and then backed off. At one point I got the gauge to read 65 MPH.

I drag raced a 500 EXC 4-stroke. I lost, huge.


Another fun fact : All weekend at fuel stops I took approximately 2x the fuel the 4-stroke guys did. I'm the only one in my party that went to reserve between fuel stops on the NE Charity Classic ride this weekend. I was also the slowest rider, by far.