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2004 DUCATI ST4s for a 2002 DUCATI 998?? Sound like a good deal?

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    2004 DUCATI ST4s for a 2002 DUCATI 998?? Sound like a good deal?

    Don't judge me!

    2002 998 11K miles, due for 12k service. Sil moto exhaust, Sarget seat, PCIII, Helibars, Woodcraft/duncanmoto clutch cover, some carbon bits.
    Nada $7k/ KBB $7600. Asking $7500. (because due for service) My bike in Vermont.



    2004 ST4s 9500 miles, Aftermarket exhaust, not sure what else.
    Nada $7500/ Kbb $7000 Asking $8500 Bike is at a dealer in Florida.



    $500 to ship one way.

    Sight unseen the dealer in florida started at $6000 in trade for the 998. I would have to ship it so that reduces it to $5500. Let's say I get them down to $7500 on the ST4s, that is $2000 PLUS my 998 for the ST4s.

    It does not sound like a good enough deal to me but what do you guys think? Keep in mind this is FAR from a done deal.

    Which bike do you think commands more money in an outright sale?

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    Re: 2004 ST4s for a 2002 998?? Sound like a good deal?

    you can turbo it, add a body kit & fine tune the suspension. no matter what you add to it, it's still a Dodge Neon

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    Re: 2004 ST4s for a 2002 998?? Sound like a good deal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy 2 Shots View Post
    you can turbo it, add a body kit & fine tune the suspension. no matter what you add to it, it's still a Dodge Neon
    ST4s, not SRT-4.

    Unless you were being funny, of course.

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    Re: 2004 ST4s for a 2002 998?? Sound like a good deal?

    Quote Originally Posted by KawiSmurf View Post
    ST4s, not SRT-4.

    Unless you were being funny, of course.
    nope, i'm an idiot

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    Re: 2004 ST4s for a 2002 998?? Sound like a good deal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy 2 Shots View Post
    you can turbo it, add a body kit & fine tune the suspension. no matter what you add to it, it's still a Dodge Neon
    I was like

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy 2 Shots View Post
    nope, i'm an idiot
    and then I was like

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    Re: 2004 DUCATI ST4s for a 2002 DUCATI 998?? Sound like a good deal?

    Do you ever Just think about things and make a choice your self?

    You know more about Ducati the 98% of us.

    every thought that passes your mind does not need to show up on NESR.

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    nice edit Doc . adding Ducati in the subject & adding pictures. i honestly thought you were talking about those shitty cars

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    Re: 2004 DUCATI ST4s for a 2002 DUCATI 998?? Sound like a good deal?

    Quote Originally Posted by BLACK SQUIRREL View Post
    Do you ever Just think about things and make a choice your self?

    You know more about Ducati the 98% of us.

    every thought that passes your mind does not need to show up on NESR.
    It doesn't. I recently bought a brand new 7x14 trailer all by myself...

    I am just looking for opinions.

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    Re: 2004 DUCATI ST4s for a 2002 DUCATI 998?? Sound like a good deal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy 2 Shots View Post
    nice edit Doc . adding Ducati in the subject & adding pictures. i honestly thought you were talking about those shitty cars
    All for you baby!

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    Re: 2004 ST4s for a 2002 998?? Sound like a good deal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy 2 Shots View Post
    nope, i'm an idiot

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    Re: 2004 DUCATI ST4s for a 2002 DUCATI 998?? Sound like a good deal?

    A little closer to home, National Powersports in NH has this FS:

    2006 DUCATI ST3
    $7,495.00
    8,839 miles

    But I dunno the diff between ST2, 3, and 4 sorry.

    For sure you could elicit opinions at nedoc.org

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    Re: 2004 DUCATI ST4s for a 2002 DUCATI 998?? Sound like a good deal?

    Quote Originally Posted by whynot View Post
    A little closer to home, National Powersports in NH has this FS:

    2006 DUCATI ST3
    $7,495.00
    8,839 miles

    But I dunno the diff between ST2, 3, and 4 sorry.

    For sure you could elicit opinions at nedoc.org
    I saw that but it is not the right color. Good bargaining chip though.

    I'll try nedoc.

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    Re: 2004 DUCATI ST4s for a 2002 DUCATI 998?? Sound like a good deal?

    998 is sexier

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    Re: 2004 DUCATI ST4s for a 2002 DUCATI 998?? Sound like a good deal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pittenger5 View Post
    998 is sexier

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    Re: 2004 DUCATI ST4s for a 2002 DUCATI 998?? Sound like a good deal?

    ST3 vs ST4s (04 and up)

    Both share the same chassis and bodywork. The ST3 gets a 992cc 3 valve Single OHC liquid cooled twin, the ST4s gets a 4 valve 996 DOHC motor yoinked straight from the famed 996 with a tweaked front head for improved tire clearance. The ST3 has more grunt off the line, hangs with the 996 to 8k RPM, then the 996 continues building power while the ST3 flattens out.

    http://www.bikeboy.org/st3base.html has a great comparison dyno of the two motors. (Along with the 1000DS the ST3 is derived from.)

    The ST4s gets an Ohlins rear shock with remote preload adjustment, plus fully adjustable Showa forks up front compared to the ST3's Sachs rear shock and preload only adjustable front end. The ST4s gets 5 spoke cast Aluminum wheels, the ST3 gets 3 spoke units. (SLIGHTLY heavier).

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    Re: 2004 DUCATI ST4s for a 2002 DUCATI 998?? Sound like a good deal?

    You probably saw this, too:

    http://hudsonvalley.craigslist.org/mcy/1835933557.html

    "Real clean 2002 ST4S
    Much aftermarket carbon
    15000 miles
    Runs perfect
    $6200"

    "wrong" color, but closer than FL

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    Re: 2004 DUCATI ST4s for a 2002 DUCATI 998?? Sound like a good deal?

    I would not do that deal at all... Just me but to much money and hassle to be worth it. And i will drive anywhere for a good trade.

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    Re: 2004 DUCATI ST4s for a 2002 DUCATI 998?? Sound like a good deal?

    Me again. I did one long-distance deal, for a 907ie, from a private party. It looked great, the list of mods etc. was great, he had an honest voice, and the bike was all right when it got here, but as I got into it, there were just too many "surprises," things I could have seen by crawling all over the bike, getting down on the ground, pulling the seat and fairings off, etc., nothing fatal, just another $1K to set it right. So, for me, no more long distance deals, dealer or private party, but that's just me.

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    Re: 2004 DUCATI ST4s for a 2002 DUCATI 998?? Sound like a good deal?

    well the st4 sure is ugly but it has a banana seat so....

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