keep the 600 or go to a 1000rr

[momo]

I got a 97 600r with about 13k on it. The suspension is shot both front and back and now there is a problem with the clutch, which my dad and i are trying to figure out. My question is the old, dump money in her or get somthing else. I have put about 8k on to the bike and have been riding bikes for my whole life, so that is why i was thinking of jumping up to the 1000rr, and i found a really good deal. I am 6'1" and weigh about 235 with all my gear on.

[Mr. Kurtz]

How good of a deal? I know a guy selling a 1000RR...

[Daytona440]

nobody on here can answer the most important question when it comes to the 600 to 1000 switch: Are you mature enough to handle the change? for example, according to Sport Rider a 97 CBR600F3 puts out 93.5 HP, 44.5 ft-lbs of torque and has a dry weight of 432 pounds. By comparison an 06 CBR1000rr's numbers are 158.8, 79.6 and 422 respectively. you are looking at a SERIOUS power increase with less weight.

now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying anything bad about the liter bikes. I know plenty of people who have them and do quite well. What I am suggesting is you may also want to consider the new 600's as well. They will still provide a power increase and weight decrease...

[momo]

i have one speeding ticket for doing 75 in a 65 in my ranger

in all seriousness, i consider my self a conservative rider who sometimes opens it up. I want to take it to a track to learn how to ride better. I respect power

[Daytona440]

Cool man...the track is a blast.

check out Motorcycle Track Days for the New England Region

Tony is a member on here who runs a fantastic track day at NHMS...

[Uncle Snake]

I respect power

Than, by definition, you respect NIKON !!!

[Cheese]

in all seriousness, i consider my self a conservative rider who sometimes opens it up. I want to take it to a track to learn how to ride better. I respect power

I bumped from a 600 to a 750. Love the 750 but sure wish I kept the 600 around for the track. You'll learn a lot at the track on your new 1000RR, but I think you'd learn a lot more on the 600 if it's financially possible to have both.

[Evil_Weasel]

you sound like you've got a good enough head on your shoulders and enough experiance to not immediatly burst into a flamming projectile of death the first time you sit on a liter bike. ..though only you can know the answer to that for sure.

that being said...i never met a HP i didn't like...or more importantly a ft/lb.

both a modern 600 and 1000 are complete over kill on the streets, but i prefer my over kill with less shifting. who wants to have to down shift twice than upshift 3 more times before crashing spectacualrly when you can get a liter bike and do it all in one gear?

as far as future track days go. a new 600 would be alot faster than your old one and alot less likely to send you into orbit than the 1000...but i figure you ride on the street more than the track. if you can control your right wrist with the 1K while at the track (diffucult but possible) the benifts on the street are worth it.

[OreoGaborio]

i have one speeding ticket for doing 75 in a 65 in my ranger

in all seriousness, i consider my self a conservative rider who sometimes opens it up. I want to take it to a track to learn how to ride better. I respect power

If you're interested in going to the track to learn how to be a better rider, you'll probably learn more from the F3. Plain & simple, it's a better learning tool.

But if you do end up getting the 1000, by all means, bring it to the track as it'll help you learn the bike more in 1 day than you would in 1000 street miles.


My personal opinion on I4 liter bikes is that they're not really all that much fun to ride on the street compared to other bikes. Yes, the power is retarded & it's fun on the highway & big sweepers, but I like flogging bikes on back roads... ya can't really flog an I4 1k on the street.

My advice: make a list of what you want to do on your next bike & what you want to get out of it... then let that list dictate the bike you get. If ya still want an I4 Liter then go for it.

[akira700]

If you wanna take it to the track (Louden) I think you'll be better off
with a later model 600. Ditch the F3. I had one and it was
hard to part with but once you step up to modern engine technology
you wont really miss the old bike.

One big thing nowadays to consider is the 600 will save
a bit of gas over the 1000.

[momo]

its me peat, its kevs old yamaharrr 600r and yes, i need to get up to the track with you guys. Im just wondering, pushing 235 with all my gear would be better suited with a litter bike? I know both bikes are way more then anyone ever needs.

[Mystic]

what kind of deal you getting on the 1000rr ? im selling 1 of my 06s and just trying to see what they are going for as mine is already pretty cheap as i ran into some storage problems ...but i havent gotten any bites on it

[OreoGaborio]

its me peat, its kevs old yamaharrr 600r and yes, i need to get up to the track with you guys. Im just wondering, pushing 235 with all my gear would be better suited with a litter bike? I know both bikes are way more then anyone ever needs.

Someone find out how much Rick Doucette weighs

(multiple class championships PER YEAR on an SV650)

[MissTwisties]

All I can say is....my husband bought his 2006 ZX-10 and after one season of riding on it, wished he had gone with the 600. He says there is way too much power for no reason, as far as street riding goes. I have ridden it a few times, it's sick how much power that thing has. I would think it would be good for the track as you could exploit it, but for riding street only...meh. Beutiful beast non-the-less...it ask for some serious respect, that's for sure.

[TTD]

its me peat, its kevs old yamaharrr 600r and yes, i need to get up to the track with you guys. Im just wondering, pushing 235 with all my gear would be better suited with a litter bike? I know both bikes are way more then anyone ever needs.

I weigh 190 or so... which means I'm pretty close to your weight with full gear... and have no problem on the new 600rr. Plenty O Power!!!

[tsanterre]

I went from a '97 600F3 to an '03 GSXR-750 to an '07 CBR 1000rr.

I do most of my riding on the streets and I absolutely love the CBR. Yes, it's more power than you need on the street, however, so isn't a 600rr. I have no problem with throttle control. The new liter bikes are as small as the older 600's and probably even handle better.

It's all about what you want / need and what you are looking to get out of the bike.

As everybody has already mentioned, do the pro/con thing and see what you come up with.

I can only speak from experience, but I'm completley happy with a 1000 on the street.

[Punjistick]

I know you are interrested in the 1000rr but it might be worth checking out the gsxr 1000 since it has the mode select switch. I think there are a few guys on here who bump it down to 'C' mode for the track. If it were me, I'd be leaning towards that since it is almost like having two bikes in one.

[burnham]

I know you are interrested in the 1000rr but it might be worth checking out the gsxr 1000 since it has the mode select switch. I think there are a few guys on here who bump it down to 'C' mode for the track. If it were me, I'd be leaning towards that since it is almost like having two bikes in one.

+1 I was thinking the same thing, or maybe even an '08 750 with the mode select.

[Just_Jeff]

If you're interested in going to the track to learn how to be a better rider, you'll probably learn more from the F3. Plain & simple, it's a better learning tool.

But if you do end up getting the 1000, by all means, bring it to the track as it'll help you learn the bike more in 1 day than you would in 1000 street miles.


My personal opinion on I4 liter bikes is that they're not really all that much fun to ride on the street compared to other bikes. Yes, the power is retarded & it's fun on the highway & big sweepers, but I like flogging bikes on back roads... ya can't really flog an I4 1k on the street.

My advice: make a list of what you want to do on your next bike & what you want to get out of it... then let that list dictate the bike you get. If ya still want an I4 Liter then go for it.

[sxlova07]

If you're interested in going to the track to learn how to be a better rider, you'll probably learn more from the F3. Plain & simple, it's a better learning tool.

+1k

But if you do end up getting the 1000, by all means, bring it to the track as it'll help you learn the bike more in 1 day than you would in 1000 street miles.

+1k

My personal opinion on I4 liter bikes is that they're not really all that much fun to ride on the street compared to other bikes. Yes, the power is retarded & it's fun on the highway & big sweepers, but I like flogging bikes on back roads... ya can't really flog an I4 1k on the street.

-1k course its your opinion and I respect that...however I agree with Evil_Weasel's view but would like to add with a competent rider. I view myself as an average rider and much prefer my R1 on the street than my R6. I find they both move well during spirited street riding, however I'm able to focus more on riding than gear shifting with my liter. But I'll be the first to admit that I LOVE riding the shit outta my R6 than my R1