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View Poll Results: Which supermoto?

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  • KTM 690 Enduro R (with SM trim)

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  • Husk 701 SM

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  • Keep stock hypermotard 1100evo SP

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690 vs 701 Supermoto

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto


    Quote Originally Posted by tls25rs View Post
    FYI the stock plastic skid plate from the 701 Enduro/690 Enduro will bolt right up to the 701 SM. I had it installed before I picked up the bike to double as a catch pan.
    * Double as a belly pan

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    I rode the 701 around the pits. I had a 690SMC for 5 years. I can say that the new more is FAR more powerful and torquey than the original. Bike also feels more nimble somehow. Must be revised suspension settings.

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    Extra counter balancer(s) helping negate some gyro effects, maybe?

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    Quote Originally Posted by tls25rs View Post
    Just ride it like you want to ride it without holding it at any particular RPM for a long period of time. Load it up, coast a bit, load it up again, run it through the gears etc. Keep the oil clean and enjoy. Biggest thing that needs to be done during break in is to get the rings to seat up against the cylinder walls.
    I'm totally with you on that. I was mainly just curious because most companies say to stay under a certain RPM which is pretty tough to do without a tach. I wanted to see what it was like to stay within the RPM limits on the Z125 and it was just too funny. That tiny thing is near impossible to keep from bouncing off the rev limiter in 1st and 2nd.

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    Quote Originally Posted by Kurlon View Post
    Extra counter balancer(s) helping negate some gyro effects, maybe?
    I'm not sure it's something so scientific. Probably just better forks/setup. lol

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    Quote Originally Posted by tls25rs View Post
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    R&G Racing | All Products for Husqvarna - 701 Supermoto (2017)

    701 Enduro/Supermoto: AOMC.mx

    Rick Breen has an assortment of the R&G sliders on his bike and I was thinking about buying the factory rear sliders and the fork leg protectors for mine. A couple of options for you either way.

    FYI the stock plastic skid plate from the 701 Enduro/690 Enduro will bolt right up to the 701 SM. I had it installed before I picked up the bike to double as a catch pan.

    Joel

    Can you use a lift stand with that skid plate?

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    Quote Originally Posted by LowSider View Post
    Can you use a lift stand with that skid plate?
    I don't think I would try to use a standard dirtbike lift stand with the plastic skid plate. They do have an aluminum one that may support the weight of the bike on a lift stand. If I get to the point I want to use warmers with this bike I'll most likely install the swingarm spools and use standard front and rear stands.

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    Ugh..

    Wish these things were available. Seems the 701 SM is not coming to the US as an '18 model and '17 models are 110% sold out. Enduros are easy to find though..

    ..So are 690 Dukes. What's the downside of a MY16+ Duke 690 vs the 701 SM? Both sit on 17's.. both have similar brakes.. same counterbalanced motor everyone swears is super smooth.. duke saves a pile of $ off the showroom floor and has some nifty bits in the powersports catalog available, namely a "track pack" which adds some cool TC options.

    Half considering giving up most of my street riding, selling off my SV and DL and replacing with one quiet, low maint runabout that is track-day worthy.

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    The Duke 690 is far superior for said purposes. The seating position is awesome for runabout riding, and the motor is stonking fun.

    The only downside to the duke is the cheaper suspension. If not racing it or fulltime tracking it, it is the go. I think it looks a hella lot nicer too.

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    I was salivating on the 690 Duke they have at Edelmann Sales.. Just saying

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    For track, maybe do the research about suspension upgrades and factor those in.

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    The 690 Duke has the perfect ergos for me. That’s all I got.

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    $9k retail leaves a lot of space left in the budget for track days. Hrmph..

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    The 701 comes with meh suspension too. So I wouldn't say suspension is that much different between them. I haven't rode the Duke to compare though.

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    Quote Originally Posted by nhbubba View Post
    $9k retail leaves a lot of space left in the budget for track days. Hrmph..
    What about the fj globetrotter?

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    Quote Originally Posted by csmutty View Post
    The 701 comes with meh suspension too. So I wouldn't say suspension is that much different between them. I haven't rode the Duke to compare though.
    The difference is the 701 has suspension that can be worked. The Duke suspension has no adjusters and is essentially a throw away. That is the main reason I didn't buy one to replace my 690SMC.

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_E_D View Post
    The difference is the 701 has suspension that can be worked. The Duke suspension has no adjusters and is essentially a throw away. That is the main reason I didn't buy one to replace my 690SMC.
    The sv has basic suspension too, and can be made quite lovely.

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    Quote Originally Posted by Chippertheripper View Post
    The sv has basic suspension too, and can be made quite lovely.
    As I said, do the research. It might be enough for you.

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    Quote Originally Posted by Chippertheripper View Post
    What about the fj globetrotter?
    I see that chapter of my life closing pretty securely for a few years now. Which after much soul searching, I'm actually okay with.
    Truth told I'm on the brink on a 1290 SA. That bike is fantastic. Just don't see myself using it enough. And $17k+/- for something that sits in the garage is just stoopid.

    I'm also having terrible thoughts of picking up a leftover YZ250F and throwing my supermoto bits at it, trying to revitalize my attempts at being a contendah at Boxshop.
    WR450 would be sold off to displace. WR is more of a handful for that app than I expected.

    Who knows..

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_E_D View Post
    As I said, do the research. It might be enough for you.
    Looks pretty bleak. No race-tech support at all. Can't get a read on k-tech.. has anyone ever asked PK about this?

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    Of course, they say the same about my hyper suspension, and it is more than good enough for me. Makes me wonder WTF they are going on about. I am a flyweight though. YMMV.

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    Quote Originally Posted by nhbubba View Post
    I see that chapter of my life closing pretty securely for a few years now. Which after much soul searching, I'm actually okay with.
    Truth told I'm on the brink on a 1290 SA. That bike is fantastic. Just don't see myself using it enough. And $17k+/- for something that sits in the garage is just stoopid.

    I'm also having terrible thoughts of picking up a leftover YZ250F and throwing my supermoto bits at it, trying to revitalize my attempts at being a contendah at Boxshop.
    WR450 would be sold off to displace. WR is more of a handful for that app than I expected.

    Who knows..
    I know it all too well.
    I feel like I should half congratulate you, and half smack you in the face.

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    I have nothing to add except it was nice to see a bemused option in the poll choices. Only to be outdone by a "Beet is naked" option.

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    Quote Originally Posted by csmutty View Post
    The 701 comes with meh suspension too.
    What was meh about the suspension Mr Smuttster? Admittedly the thing isn't sprung anywhere near right for me and I haven't touched a clicker on it all. Just curious what you thought was so bad?

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    The WP fully adjustable stuff is good. KTM/Husky come up with some weird settings for their stock bikes, but You can make them excellent.

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