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View Poll Results: Which supermoto?

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  • KTM 690 Enduro R (with SM trim)

    1 6.25%
  • Husk 701 SM

    11 68.75%
  • Keep stock hypermotard 1100evo SP

    3 18.75%
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690 vs 701 Supermoto

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto


    Quote Originally Posted by tls25rs View Post
    What was meh about the suspension Mr Smuttster? Admittedly the thing isn't sprung anywhere near right for me and I haven't touched a clicker on it all. Just curious what you thought was so bad?
    It's not bad for street riding, but has quicker valving that makes it feel softer. Reduces feel when riding track and leads to wallowing. Increasing preload might make it a little better, but I think the valving is to blame.

    Really I'm just comparing it to the stock suspension that comes on the fs450.

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    What the hell am I saying?! The Duke 690 is just a newer SV without a cylinder. I already have one of those.. with spares.. and suspension worked to suit.. and rain wheels.

    As you were.

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    Quote Originally Posted by nhbubba View Post
    What the hell am I saying?! The Duke 690 is just a newer SV without a cylinder. I already have one of those.. with spares.. and suspension worked to suit.. and rain wheels.

    As you were.
    That's better. It would merely be a style upgrade. You ain't got time for that!

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    If there's really no 2018 701SM coming to the US, that is some bullshit. I'm having trouble figuring out how different a bike it is (aside from the bling front brake) than a 690 Enduro R with supermoto wheels though.

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    I'd venture that if *anyone* around here is in need of a style upgrade....

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    Quote Originally Posted by loudbeard View Post
    I'd venture that if *anyone* around here is in need of a style upgrade....
    Randy.

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    Quote Originally Posted by csmutty View Post
    Randy.
    Do you know how much he makes an hour? Randy doesn't have time for a style upgrade.

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    Not to mention uphill in the snow both ways.

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    Quote Originally Posted by loudbeard View Post
    I'd venture that if *anyone* around here is in need of a style upgrade....
    Function >> form

    I stand by that assumption. Yet to have any experiences to the contrary.

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    Quote Originally Posted by nhbubba View Post
    Function >> form

    I stand by that assumption. Yet to have any experiences to the contrary.
    What programmer ever has?

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    Quote Originally Posted by feralchimp View Post
    If there's really no 2018 701SM coming to the US, that is some bullshit. I'm having trouble figuring out how different a bike it is (aside from the bling front brake) than a 690 Enduro R with supermoto wheels though.
    I was surprised to discover that in 2017 the difference was in the motor. What I looked at on KTM and Husqvarna websites indicated that the 690 Enduro had the older style motor that produced slightly less power but the 701 had the newer style motor.

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    Quote Originally Posted by nhbubba View Post
    Function >> form

    I stand by that assumption. Yet to have any experiences to the contrary.
    One of these days you’ll need to do some coke off of a stripper’s ass, you’ll be quite the contrarian.

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    i wanted a duke 690 for a while. then i sat on one. i immediately realized that its seating position was too similar to a sport naked and i would expect it to handle and perform like one. it wouldnt do that and i would be sorely disappointed in it. so i diverted my attention to the SMC. apparently those are made out gold because everyone wanted $3k over book. i settled on the SM which really is a combo of the 2. big gas tank of the duke, suspension on the taller side like the smc
    mine is not a "true" 690 though like the new ones. its 653cc. if the time ever comes that i need a top end, my understanding is i can "upgrade" to its 690 moniker

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    Quote Originally Posted by tls25rs View Post
    I was surprised to discover that in 2017 the difference was in the motor. What I looked at on KTM and Husqvarna websites indicated that the 690 Enduro had the older style motor that produced slightly less power but the 701 had the newer style motor.
    Oh man, good catch. It appears the 2017 Husky 701 Enduro uses the updated motor also.

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    Yes the white one got an upgraded motor in 17. I half expect that to work it’s way into the orange enduro one for 18. I think the duke might have already gotten it, but that’s just speculation.

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    Quote Originally Posted by Chippertheripper View Post
    I think the duke might have already gotten it, but that’s just speculation.
    I think the new motor started in the 690 Duke and then made it to the 701s for 2017 but for whatever reason not the 690s

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    It started in the Duke in '16. Most I've heard call it "the new duke motor".
    Hence one reason I started to get hot and bothered re: the Duke yesterday. Word has it they are easy to live with like twins now.

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    I'm pretty excited about something that weighs about the same as my CRF250L but makes >3x the power.

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