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    80/20 ADV tires


    Help me pick the next set of tires for my V-Strom 650. For the last 50k miles I've pretty much run sport touring rubber; Pilot Road series tires almost exclusively. I love them. Love the grip. Love the handling. Love the confidence in the rain and in the cold.

    Do not love them off pavement.

    I've parted ways with my dual-sport and want to run the 'strom further into the woods. Looking to slow down a bit on the pavement and I'm ready to give up handling and performance for capability in the dirt.

    Whut chud eyh git?

    Ken C seems to dig his Mitas E-07. Although those seem a bit aggressive for me.

    Shinko 705 or Full Bore M41/M40 are my top two as of right now.

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    Re: 80/20 ADV tires

    You'll go through the 705 pretty quick. While it sticks good, it does not last for shit in my experience (on a KLR650).

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    Re: 80/20 ADV tires

    Ech.. hadn't even thought of that. I get 8+k out of a Pilot Road rear, 2x that easy out of a front.

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    Re: 80/20 ADV tires

    I am not happy with the Mitas E07 Dakars at all, with the exception, they last, but otherwise I feel they suck and didn't last, I hate wasting rubber, they will be on my Vee till the tread is close to wear bars, and then I will never buy another set again.

    I was much happier with Metzeler Karoo Ts, even though they are a big block tread pattern, they are smoother on pavement than the chevron pattern of the E07s

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    Re: 80/20 ADV tires

    Quote Originally Posted by nhbubba View Post
    Ech.. hadn't even thought of that. I get 8+k out of a Pilot Road rear, 2x that easy out of a front.
    If I remember correctly, I was lucky to see 3k out of a rear.... when I weighed 135lbs.... on a 34hp KLR.

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    Re: 80/20 ADV tires

    Buddy was running E07's for about 6k miles on his Tiger, he really liked them. He rips in the corners and said they held well. Also did decently offroad as well.

    I've currently got TKC70's on my Super Adventure. Although not quite as aggressive as the E07, I really like them a lot, save for the cupping on the front tire. Thus far I've got ~5.5k miles on them, they look like they'll last another 2k or so. They handle pavement exceptionally (the beveled edges on the front edge of my boxes from the roads in NC last week is proof of that), and do decently offroad as well, in pretty much anything except for mud and some extremely loose gravel.

    I'm gonna go with TKC70's for another round when these are used up. They're nice tires if you don't mind the odd wear on the front.

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    Re: 80/20 ADV tires

    I've also heard really good things about the Heidenau K60's, if you want long tread life, good offroad and are willing to sacrifice some road holding ability. Most people seem to make it to 12-15k miles on them. I guess the compound is pretty hard, hence the not so great road handling.

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    Re: 80/20 ADV tires

    mefo explorers. next.

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    Re: 80/20 ADV tires

    Quote Originally Posted by TheIglu View Post
    You'll go through the 705 pretty quick. While it sticks good, it does not last for shit in my experience (on a KLR650).
    Meh. 6k out of the full bore variant on the rear and double that on the front. Loaded with camping gear on the Tiger.

    For the money, that's good enough for me.

    I don't know how you chewed through one in half that on a KLR. That seems like more of an anomaly than the rule.

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    Re: 80/20 ADV tires

    Deal's Gap. 2 rears got similar mileage.

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    Re: 80/20 ADV tires

    Interesting. The Tiger doesn't chew through them that fast on the roads down there at all.

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    Re: 80/20 ADV tires

    At least they were cheap!

    I still liked them. Just wanted to chime in with my results. They stuck damn good, even in the wet.

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    Re: 80/20 ADV tires

    It's all good. Now Colin has more data points on them. I think they're the best value out there on a cost per mile basis.

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    Yeah, for the $$$, may as well try them out. Perhaps they have improved them since I roasted a couple.

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    Re: 80/20 ADV tires

    ive got this big book of tires here...

    bridgestone trailwing series or battlewing
    mich anakee series (3 and wild)
    metzler tourance
    conti trail attack
    conti escape
    conti tkc70
    kenda big block (guy here at work has them on his BMW)
    avon trailider

    some of these dont come in a 110-19 but do come in a 100-19

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    Re: 80/20 ADV tires

    I ran Shinko 705s on my KLR for maybe 7K miles, and they still had good tread, after all, #irideslow, but still, they were good on the road, and I rode the TMT no problems. A loose, sandy trail in Rutland State Park, not so good, but i was going too fast for my skill level, and wasn't riding my own ride, as they say.

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    Re: 80/20 ADV tires

    I get about 7k out of a Full Bore rear and at least 10k out of the front. I've run three sets of them so far with the same results.

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    Re: 80/20 ADV tires

    I've got a set of 705's on my DR350, maybe 2k miles on them and very little wear. They stick pretty good, I even tracked them at the first non-sportbike TD at Thompson. They're cheap enough that you might as well try them.

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    Re: 80/20 ADV tires

    I'm getting pretty good at swapping tires myself. I guess I shouldn't be sweating tread wear so bad.. especially if the $ is reasonable.

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    Re: 80/20 ADV tires

    Quote Originally Posted by SVRACER01 View Post
    ive got this big book of tires here...

    bridgestone trailwing series or battlewing
    mich anakee series (3 and wild)
    metzler tourance
    conti trail attack
    conti escape
    conti tkc70
    kenda big block (guy here at work has them on his BMW)
    avon trailider

    some of these dont come in a 110-19 but do come in a 100-19
    Was just going to ask if anyone had run the Continental Escape

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    8,000 miles!!!

    Man I barely got 3k out of the tourance tires that came on mine

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    Re: 80/20 ADV tires

    I've stopped paying attention. Pretty sure I routinely nip at 10k out of a Road 3 rear.. 2x that from a front.
    I want to replace the tires on the bike with something more ADV worthy.. naturally the Pilot Roads on there are nowhere near worn.

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    Re: 80/20 ADV tires

    I also had a set of Conti TA2 on for the first 7.5k miles. I was pretty happy with them, although they are much more road oriented tires. But they gripped very well on road, and did good enough for me to ride the snowmobile trails in Pittsburg, everything from wide dirt highway trails to 2 track steep inclines. The couple of times I took them through some mud puddles they were definitely slippy. And loose sand, you can just forget about having any type of grip at all. I tucked the front twice between mud and leaves in the time I had the TA2's.

    I'd get them again if I needed to do a lot of highway with the occasional offroad excursion, otherwise I'm gonna stick with the TKC70's.

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    Re: 80/20 ADV tires

    Go for the Full Bores. They work really well in all conditions but mud, and they're inexpensive.

    And by the way, the Full Bore rear lasts longer than the Shinko 705 rear (it's also V-rated vs. H-rated). I've gotten anywhere from 5500-8200 miles out of my Full Bore rears, depending on what kind of riding I've been doing and how hot the weather was. Last one I took off (last week) had 8200 miles on it, and could have gone another 500 or so. One thing you'll notice is that the rear seems to wear fairly quickly for the first 3000 miles, but then slows way down for the rest of its life. Given the price and the performance, the Full Bore is my go-to tire for the Tiger.

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