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What is going on with ___ in MotoGP ???? SPOILER

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    Re: What is going on with ___ in MotoGP ???? SPOILER

    Quote Originally Posted by OreoGaborio View Post
    When you just look at finishing position, I think you're right, Paul... but if you look at how far back it is TIME wise, it puts a different perspective on it. If the MotoGP grids were as full, tight and competitive as other series', the Ducati would be much further back in the field.
    TIME wise, it's about a second per lap back. That's significant, but not the "terrible awful no good very bad" bike that so many seem to think. It needs work, but that's not a gap that says there's no hope.

    Here is a complete list of bikes in the whole world that are faster than a Ducati factory MotoGP bike:
    1) Honda factory MotoGP bike
    2) Yamaha factory MotoGP bike
    3) Yamaha satellite MotoGP bike when supported strongly by the factory
    4) Honda satellite MotoGP bike when supported strongly by the factory

    Period.

    So that's 2 designs, 8 riding job positions, and less than 20 actual physical motorcycles, total, in the world, that can beat a Ducati MotoGP bike around a track.
    So if Hayden or Rossi could step into one of those 8 jobs, then that's a step up. ANYTHING else is a step down.
    Both of them are in the best position they could be right now, as I don't see much chance of either of them being taken up by Honda or Yamaha.

    WSB has some great racing right now, and is cool to watch. But it's a step down from MotoGP.
    Some people might rather contest for the win in a lesser series than struggle in the top series; indeed several of the current top WSB riders fall into that category.
    It looks like Hayden and Rossi both would rather fight with the very best than accept defeat and step down, at least for now.
    CRTs are pointless and meaningless, and don't really count as MotoGP; if I was Edwards having to step down, I'd much rather have stepped back down to WSB than to a CRT bike.

    Hayden, Edwards, and Spies have all already done the superbike thing. Edwards and Spies having won WSB championships, and Hayden an AMA championship. Any of them might do it again, but for them it's practically an admission of retirement.

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    Re: What is going on with ___ in MotoGP ???? SPOILER

    Quote Originally Posted by PhilB View Post
    Hayden, Edwards, and Spies have all already done the superbike thing. Edwards and Spies having won WSB championships, and Hayden an AMA championship. Any of them might do it again, but for them it's practically an admission of retirement.

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    I think this might be the best thing for Edwards. I don't think he'd be a title contender in WSK but I bet he could be fighting at or near the front. we need him on the box more for the interviews cause we all know he's a fucking riot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OreoGaborio View Post
    Out with it... You know you can't tease us like that. It's against the man code!
    Oh nothing. Been reading Crash.net comments, WERA BBS, and few threads here on this stuff. They're just really fun to read.

    Wish I could comment, spend all day sharing information, but alas I cannot. Hard enough dealing with it on the professional end of things.

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    Hayden's contract with Ducati expired lst month.

    Crutchlow to Ducati.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post
    Crutchlow to Ducati.
    Might happen, but I think that would be a mistake for both Crutchlow and Ducati. But who knows, maybe if that happens, Yamaha would pick up Hayden for a Tech3 spot (or even a factory spot if Spies can't get it together). He hasn't ridden for them before. That would be a cool break for Nicky.

    But realistically, I think Yamaha will either sit tight with their current lineup in factory and Tech3, or demote Spies in favor of Crutchlow (60%) or Dovi (40%).

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    Quote Originally Posted by a13x View Post
    Oh nothing. Been reading Crash.net comments, WERA BBS, and few threads here on this stuff. They're just really fun to read.

    Wish I could comment, spend all day sharing information, but alas I cannot. Hard enough dealing with it on the professional end of things.
    Then no teasing! Not allowed!

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    Then no teasing! Not allowed!
    Oh okay. No teasing. The answer certainly isn't in this image.

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