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    Re: Thoughts on adventure/ST bikes


    I am also obsessed with the husky 701, but no way to take a passenger


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    Re: Thoughts on adventure/ST bikes

    Having a passenger is the worst thing to ever happen to a motorcycle.

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    Having a passenger is the worst thing to ever happen to a motorcycle.
    Do you just hate getting laid?!

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    Re: Thoughts on adventure/ST bikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Jewcati View Post
    I am totally obsessed with the new 1090 r, my only concern is how it, with the tkc80 will handle in the street. Also, seems to be a lack of dirt roads where I live, so I doubt my usage would be 50/50....anyone have thoughts?


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    From everything I've read of the 1090R, it takes nearly all of the good parts of the 1190R without all the "luxury" bits (no TPMS, no cornering ABS) and leaves a motorcycle that weighs a bit less, makes nearly the same power and is just as confident, if not more so (they increased the suspension stiffness) offroad.

    As far as TKC80's, they're widely considered as the best on-road knobbies you can buy. From what I understand they still stick like glue to pavement, compared to other knobbies anyways. They'll still probably burn up in 2k-3k miles, so for road oriented use I'd probably switch to TKC70's afterward. I loved them on my 1290SA, they're competent on dirt/gravel, they allowed me to bevel the edges of my boxes at the Dragon and they last 8k miles.

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    Re: Thoughts on adventure/ST bikes

    Continental really does want all the money for their tires, don't they?

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    Re: Thoughts on adventure/ST bikes

    They're pretty strong in the adventure segment. Which is also why they ask a premium for their tires. Pirelli, Michelin and Dunlop really need to get off their asses and start getting into adventure tires.

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    Bitches get their own bike. I can't stand 2up.

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    Re: Thoughts on adventure/ST bikes

    BTW, I still love my Super Adventure. It's easily the most superb and fun bike I've ever been lucky enough to own. About to roll over 16k miles, it's been all over the northeast on numerous paved, dirt and unmaintained roads (the entirety of Puppy Dog, Hampster, Trans-Mass, and various other hundred miles plus dirt routes and class 6 roads all over NH/northern MA), and down the eastern seaboard to NC/TN and back, and sometime before the end of the year it's gonna hit the Northern New England Adventure Trail for some moto camping. It hasn't left me stranded yet, and it's been pretty minimal for quirkiness.

    I'd buy this thing again in a heartbeat, and I have no plans on selling it anytime soon. I simply love it too much to even consider parting ways.

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    Re: Thoughts on adventure/ST bikes

    Quote Originally Posted by SRTie4k View Post
    They're pretty strong in the adventure segment. Which is also why they ask a premium for their tires. Pirelli, Michelin and Dunlop really need to get off their asses and start getting into adventure tires.
    Pirelli actually has several ADV tires to choose from. The MT-90 is a terrific tire that used to come standard on the 990 ADV. The problem with it is that Pirelli has been lazy about supplying it in additional sizes -- the rear is only available in 150/70-18 and several skinnier DS sizes, for example, not 150/70-17 or the increasingly popular 170 size.

    Michelin has the new Anakee Wild, but it too is size-limited, and reviews have been decidedly mixed.

    Dunlop really needs to step up their game. So does Avon.

    Meanwhile, Motoz has been coming on strong in the ADV market. Mitas too. And of course Shinko.

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    That's my biggest issue with those brands, not enough sizes (no 170/60/17 and 120/70/19 at least). They're only just now getting off their collective asses and doing something.

    Pirelli is FINALLY releasing the Scorpion Rally STR in the states, it's only become available in the past month or two. I might try those next. Expensive, though.

    From everything I've heard, the Anakee Wild is basically a slight cross between a Karoo 3 and a TKC80, yet has worse life expectancy than the Karoo. Not great.

    The Shinkos are also size limited afaik. I can't get them. But my buddy has them on his Tiger and he's not crazy about them, says they're pretty hard and don't stick well, which means not good on a 160HP ADV bike even if I could get them. Then again, they're also about as much as a gallon of oil at Walmart.

    Been considering Motoz's, but I've also read a lot of issues with chunking on the high HP ADV bikes. They've been pretty receptive about it though, and are fixing it, which is nice to see.

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    Re: Thoughts on adventure/ST bikes

    Quote Originally Posted by SRTie4k View Post
    The Shinkos are also size limited afaik. I can't get them. But my buddy has them on his Tiger and he's not crazy about them, says they're pretty hard and don't stick well, which means not good on a 160HP ADV bike even if I could get them. Then again, they're also about as much as a gallon of oil at Walmart.
    Shinko 705? Definitely available in the 120 and 170 sizes for your SA. My friend Tommy, who also has an SA, is running them and loves them. I've been running the Full Bore version (essentially identical tire with different branding) on my Tiger for most of its life, and it's my go-to tire. Way better on dirt than it looks like it should be, and fully capable of peg-scraping lean angles in the twisties. Definitely not a hard-compound tire -- you sure your buddy is talking about the same one, not Mitas or Heidenau (both of which are hard compounds and reportedly pretty sketchy in the wet)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by markbvt View Post
    Shinko 705? Definitely available in the 120 and 170 sizes for your SA. My friend Tommy, who also has an SA, is running them and loves them. I've been running the Full Bore version (essentially identical tire with different branding) on my Tiger for most of its life, and it's my go-to tire. Way better on dirt than it looks like it should be, and fully capable of peg-scraping lean angles in the twisties. Definitely not a hard-compound tire -- you sure your buddy is talking about the same one, not Mitas or Heidenau (both of which are hard compounds and reportedly pretty sketchy in the wet)?

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    Yeah, Shinko 705's on his Tiger which he commutes with everyday. Says his traction light goes nuts every time he lights it up, can't go full throttle without traction kicking in, and that's in the dry.

    Guess I didn't realize it was available in my size. It's cheap enough, maybe I'll give it a try and see for myself. Can't beat $175 for a set of tires.

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    Re: Thoughts on adventure/ST bikes

    Quote Originally Posted by SRTie4k View Post
    Yeah, Shinko 705's on his Tiger which he commutes with everyday. Says his traction light goes nuts every time he lights it up, can't go full throttle without traction kicking in, and that's in the dry.

    Guess I didn't realize it was available in my size. It's cheap enough, maybe I'll give it a try and see for myself. Can't beat $175 for a set of tires.
    Interesting, the only time I've spun up the Full Bore version of that on my Tiger is in the wet on the really right twisties in WV.

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    Re: Thoughts on adventure/ST bikes

    Ok ignore my previous, I had the wrong tire. He's running Shinko 804/805's.

    The 705's look a lot like TKC70's (I love those tires) but half the cost. Guess I'm trying those next.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SRTie4k View Post
    Ok ignore my previous, I had the wrong tire. He's running Shinko 804/805's.
    Yeah, that makes way more sense. And those aren't available in as many sizes.

    You'll love the 705s.

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