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Two very interesting articles in this month's Cycle World...

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    Two very interesting articles in this month's Cycle World...

    One article explaining the history of the the term "horsepower" and what it actually means and the other article about the demise of Buell Motorcycles.

    I highly recommend reading both articles if you are able to. The horsepower one is very informative.

    The demise of Buell is another one that's more of an eye-opener as to what transpired up to the closing of Buell. As you know, I wish the best for Erik Buell and hope he gets a real shot at making an honest sport bike in his lifetime because I think we the consumer will benefit considerably.

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    Re: Two very interesting articles in this month's Cycle World...

    I just put the mag down.. great timing.

    Oh and good articles

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    Re: Two very interesting articles in this month's Cycle World...

    The Barracuda 2....

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    Re: Two very interesting articles in this month's Cycle World...

    Should be an article on the New exhaust from 2 brothers racing for the Hawk too.

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    Re: Two very interesting articles in this month's Cycle World...

    That article about the demise of Buell made me even more sad that they're gone. It sounds like Erik really wanted to put out some great products, and Harley just kept killing all of their innovative/creative ideas. After reading that article I loathe HD even more.

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    Re: Two very interesting articles in this month's Cycle World...

    Quote Originally Posted by schleppy View Post
    That article about the demise of Buell made me even more sad that they're gone. It sounds like Erik really wanted to put out some great products, and Harley just kept killing all of their innovative/creative ideas. After reading that article I loathe HD even more.
    That about sums it up.

    Another funny thing is that if you read the article carefully it pretty much goes on to say that H-D is going to continue making the same crap because nothing can be had from racing. Then again, that is somewhat true when you are hell-bent on using the same clunky engine config from 1903.

    I find it rather unreal that H-D is going to stubbornly continue right down the same path of the AMF days. America needs a real sport bike and, at least for right now, we can thank Harley-Davidson for nixing that plan because they continually choose not to see other market segments.

    Erik Buell has something and we can only hope that there's an investor or two that will be able to back him up.

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    Re: Two very interesting articles in this month's Cycle World...

    HD has their Demographic... They do not want to cross the line to the hooligans. Big burly bearded men are where its at with them. I mean come on how many Honda, Suzuki or kawi tats do you see out there? Not many. And if you have one you are a toolbag and I do not want to know about it.

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    I saw this a couple of days ago and wanted to stay out of it.... Being a Buell owner and "enthusiast" I guess people think my view is jaded by brand loyalty. My bike will never be the fastest, or the best handling, and definitely isn't the prettiest bike in the world. However, I have great pride in the fact that some of our "elves" as we Buellers call them here in the states put my bike together. Harley tried to kill Erik's dream, but now looking at his 1190 race bike and what he has done with the 1125r's at his ErikBuellRacing shop lead me to believe that he is far from done. It only takes a quick glance at Buell enthusiast sites like Badweatherbikers and Buelletinboard, to name a couple, to realize that there is no shortage in people willing to keep Buell alive with the remaining bikes on the road. The barracuda 2 project was an evolution of the bike I ride, and safe to say if it ever comes to truition, I will be right in line to grab one up. I hope Erik keeps doing what he does best, overcoming the naysayers and critics and continues to build unique and exciting motorcycles.

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    Re: Two very interesting articles in this month's Cycle World...

    Quote Originally Posted by Subee13 View Post
    HD has their Demographic... They do not want to cross the line to the hooligans. Big burly bearded men are where its at with them. I mean come on how many Honda, Suzuki or kawi tats do you see out there? Not many. And if you have one you are a toolbag and I do not want to know about it.

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    Re: Two very interesting articles in this month's Cycle World...

    Quote Originally Posted by Subee13 View Post
    I mean come on how many Honda, Suzuki or kawi tats do you see out there? Not many. And if you have one you are a toolbag and I do not want to know about it.
    Oh. Gee. What will I do now with my life since Subee13 has declared me a toolbag.


    In other news that Buell stuff is sad. We'll see them reappear within the next 5 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ff36buell View Post
    I saw this a couple of days ago and wanted to stay out of it.... Being a Buell owner and "enthusiast" I guess people think my view is jaded by brand loyalty. My bike will never be the fastest, or the best handling, and definitely isn't the prettiest bike in the world. However, I have great pride in the fact that some of our "elves" as we Buellers call them here in the states put my bike together. Harley tried to kill Erik's dream, but now looking at his 1190 race bike and what he has done with the 1125r's at his ErikBuellRacing shop lead me to believe that he is far from done. It only takes a quick glance at Buell enthusiast sites like Badweatherbikers and Buelletinboard, to name a couple, to realize that there is no shortage in people willing to keep Buell alive with the remaining bikes on the road. The barracuda 2 project was an evolution of the bike I ride, and safe to say if it ever comes to truition, I will be right in line to grab one up. I hope Erik keeps doing what he does best, overcoming the naysayers and critics and continues to build unique and exciting motorcycles.

    Nick
    Thats pretty much how I feel too . I picked up the magazine & put it down at the store . I guess I will pick it up now .

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    Re: Two very interesting articles in this month's Cycle World...

    Jen test rode the 1125CR at Infineon last year and came away really impressed. We'd both buy/ride one of those as our street whips anyday.

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    Re: Two very interesting articles in this month's Cycle World...

    Quote Originally Posted by ff36buell View Post
    IMy bike will never be the fastest
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    fwiw, Buell holds the worlds motorcycle speed record on ice

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    Re: Two very interesting articles in this month's Cycle World...

    Quote Originally Posted by a13x View Post
    Oh. Gee. What will I do now with my life since Subee13 has declared me a toolbag.
    Wanna carry my hammer for me?

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    Re: Two very interesting articles in this month's Cycle World...

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    Why not, I already carry your purse.

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    Re: Two very interesting articles in this month's Cycle World...



    Wait!

    In a way, did a13x just tell us he had Honda, Suzuki or Kawi tats?


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    Quote Originally Posted by a13x View Post
    Why not, I already carry your purse.
    You're such a gentleman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bergs View Post


    Wait!

    In a way, did a13x just tell us he had Honda, Suzuki or Kawi tats?

    Yes he did, cause he does.

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    Re: Two very interesting articles in this month's Cycle World...

    What are some examples of HD killing off ideas and inovation?

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    Re: Two very interesting articles in this month's Cycle World...

    Quote Originally Posted by obsolete View Post
    What are some examples of HD killing off ideas and inovation?
    Read the article then ask.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bergs View Post
    Read the article then ask.
    I have no way of doing that in the next few days, but I am interested in what HD did in that aspect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bergs View Post


    Wait!

    In a way, did a13x just tell us he had Honda, Suzuki or Kawi tats?

    I have thought about this . When I bought my BUELL my wife said no BUELL tatoos .I dont have any yet .

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    I am thinking of getting a sunshine or butterfly on my lower back, but now that you mention it, buell would fit there too. oooooh decisions decisions!




    hope someone gives that dude and honest shot to make some american sportbike magic happen.

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    Re: Two very interesting articles in this month's Cycle World...

    Quote Originally Posted by Subee13 View Post
    HD has their Demographic... They do not want to cross the line to the hooligans.
    What about the VR-1000? What about the bikes made available to the public (that were sold before they were even built) for homologation rules? They certainly were trying (and failing) to build a superbike.

    What HD honestly needs is more engineers than lawyers. That's their biggest problem. 1903 technology in 2010. Love it.

    I was at the store earlier, if I had seen this before hand I'da grabbed a copy.

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    Re: Two very interesting articles in this month's Cycle World...

    Barracuda looked to be one hell of a bike...

    I test rode the 1125's a couple times and loved them - For what I paid for my 750 when I picked it up, If I had waited another year, I could have easily snatched up a new 1125 with just a bit more coin, and definately would have!

    It's my belief Buell will be back in 2012 after his contract runs out with HD and he can start to produce his own shit again. I think the barracuda will become a real street bike and the 1125r will be back, and I doubt he'll have trouble finding any investors.

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