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    Re: Bad decisions were made today..

    @R7 - is this what the nut is supposed to be or does it have a hex head like in your post?

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    Either way: if you know the specs, I would be honored to make a part for a such a beautiful bike if it comes to that.

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    Re: Bad decisions were made today..

    Quote Originally Posted by keeena View Post
    @R7 - is this what the nut is supposed to be or does it have a hex head like in your post?

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    Either way: if you know the specs, I would be honored to make a part for a such a beautiful bike if it comes to that.
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    Yea, this thread is awesome. I had no idea how cool these bikes are. Just assumed they were a typical "race replica" .

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    Re: Bad decisions were made today..

    Quote Originally Posted by keeena View Post
    @R7 - is this what the nut is supposed to be or does it have a hex head like in your post?

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    Either way: if you know the specs, I would be honored to make a part for a such a beautiful bike if it comes to that.
    That’s a great offer and I really appreciate it. I may take you up on that.

    I have the piece in your picture, which is the original R7 part. The difference on my bike, is the fork bottoms are different. The fork bottoms on the bike, don’t have the holes drilled or tapped for the 2 smaller locking nuts. The sleeve portion OD of the original axle nut is also smaller than the ID of the fork bottom.
    I think it’ll be cleaner to have the hex head rather than drill and tap the fork bottoms for the two locking bolts

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    Quote Originally Posted by R7 View Post
    That’s a great offer and I really appreciate it. I may take you up on that.

    I have the piece in your picture, which is the original R7 part. The difference on my bike, is the fork bottoms are different. The fork bottoms on the bike, don’t have the holes drilled or tapped for the 2 smaller locking nuts. The sleeve portion OD of the original axle nut is also smaller than the ID of the fork bottom.
    I think it’ll be cleaner to have the hex head rather than drill and tap the fork bottoms for the two locking bolts
    Gotcha. Agreed on not tapping the lowers you have. Seems pretty straight-forward. The right-hand side use a spacer or is it machined into the axle itself?

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    Re: Bad decisions were made today..

    You can try an ohlins dealer for that part. The forks are pretty standard from them and the insert are what are specific.

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    Re: Bad decisions were made today..

    Quote Originally Posted by keeena View Post
    Gotcha. Agreed on not tapping the lowers you have. Seems pretty straight-forward. The right-hand side use a spacer or is it machined into the axle itself?
    The right side also has a spacer. I have 1 correct spacer, that will work on both sides. In theory, I could buy, or have a copy made of the one spacer I have, and make it work. It would not solve the nut side being locking I added a couple pictures of the sleeve spacer that came with the bike

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    You can try an ohlins dealer for that part. The forks are pretty standard from them and the insert are what are specific.
    I’ve tried reaching out to Ohlins, and even searching their site for parts. Any similar part gets redirected to the Japanese site where the parts listed, are bike specific. If dimensions of actual parts were listed, I think I can figure out the correct part to buy.
    By the way, thank you again for the brake calipers. I’m waiting on the bolts and spacers to mount them.

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    Re: Bad decisions were made today..

    This is some weird axle voodoo here. What in the world is the point of this hardware?

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    Re: Bad decisions were made today..

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_E_D View Post
    This is some weird axle voodoo here. What in the world is the point of this hardware?
    Looks like Ohlins R&T forks. I'm pretty sure all the bottoms are the same. So you get whatever hardware from them to adapt to your bike. This bike also has aftermarket wheels on it.Could have been wheels meant for a different axle and knowing what this bike is a custom made piece isn't out of the question. Of course without seeing whats going on first hand I am completely taking a guess.

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    Re: Bad decisions were made today..

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_E_D View Post
    This is some weird axle voodoo here. What in the world is the point of this hardware?
    Quote Originally Posted by union View Post
    Looks like Ohlins R&T forks. I'm pretty sure all the bottoms are the same. So you get whatever hardware from them to adapt to your bike. This bike also has aftermarket wheels on it.Could have been wheels meant for a different axle and knowing what this bike is a custom made piece isn't out of the question. Of course without seeing whats going on first hand I am completely taking a guess.

    I think the axle parts are a mix of original R7 parts, and some aftermarket/Ohlins parts. In an ideal situation, I’d like to find all the original R7 parts… tho that is the most unlikely scenario.

    I have the OE wheels that came with the bike, they are the same axle size, same spacing, same brake rotor mounting as the aftermarket carbon wheels. I’ve tried them both on the bike, I have the same issues with both sets of wheels.

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    I’ve reached out to Ohlins USA, the guy wasn’t much help. His focus was on 30 year old parts not being made anymore, even tho I gave him the dates the prior owner was doing this conversion, which was 17-18 years ago. The part I found from WeBike in Japan, looks like what I need, I may just order it to see.

    I’m dropping the bike off this afternoon at a shop to get the coolant pipe made. Once I get it back, the focus is on the airbox.

    The front brakes should be sorted as well, I have the new TI mounting bolts, just waiting on the correct TI 10mm caliper spacers to show up.
    What’s the preferred stainless brake line brand being used? And originally the R7 had 2 lines coming from the master, one line to each caliper. My Tuono has the same brake calipers I’m using on the R7, with one line from the master, and a line connecting one caliper to the other. Is there a preferred method?

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    Re: Bad decisions were made today..

    I've got some Galfer Superbike lines that are pretty sexy. Two full length lines from MC to each caliper...

    But IMO, any of the typical routing methods is fine. I haven't really heard many solid arguments for or against any of them in particular. Whichever set-up you like best based on personal taste.

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    Re: Bad decisions were made today..

    Only thing I can think of is the loop from caliper to caliper could hold an air bubble.

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    so i chased a brake issue for a season and ended up being worn bleeders. did all the obvious things like rebuilt calipers with fresh seals and pistons (two sets), new fluid, swapped masters....still sucked. i zip tied my lever over night and found fluid seeping out of both bleeders on both sets of calipers. $5 from the dealer and i was good to go. dont waste your money with speed bleeders or anything aftermarket.

    another trick i've seen is TSE will take a complete brake set and hang them upside down to let air pockets move for easier bleeding.

    one trick i've personally encountered, which i dont recommend is crashing. bike took a hard hit to the ground, bled the calipers and it magically shook out all air pockets after. brakes were amazing after. again, dont recommend this method unless you're on an SV, EX250, or something that will gain value from it having some pavement marks.

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    I'm running Spiegler lines on the hog. I went their type 950 route. 1 Line from the master to a T that puts 1 line to each caliper. They made the lines to my spec lengths. Worked out great. I would do that again if I needed to. They can be customized many ways. I've also used goodridge lines in the past with good results and galfer lines.

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    I've run mostly Spiegler lines. And I always preferred separate lines from the MC.

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    Tomorrow I pick the bike up from the fabrication shop that I had the coolant pipe made at. We had decided on making it two piece and connecting it with rubber hose. It was difficult to make as one piece and stay straight once welding it together. These are the pictures he sent me.

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    Love good fab work. Very nice.

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    Re: Bad decisions were made today..

    I realize this R7 is a limited icon, and the new R7 is a completely different bike… but the new R7 is listed as an inline 2 cylinder…. Is that different from a parallel twin?

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    Re: Bad decisions were made today..

    Quote Originally Posted by Gixxer View Post
    I realize this R7 is a limited icon, and the new R7 is a completely different bike… but the new R7 is listed as an inline 2 cylinder…. Is that different from a parallel twin?
    Inline 2 cylinder and parallel twin are the same engine configurations.

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    Re: Bad decisions were made today..

    And this R7 is clearly an in-line four cylinder with a traditional screamer crank (unlike current R1 with a crossplane)


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    And this R7 is clearly an in-line four cylinder with a traditional screamer crank (unlike current R1 with a crossplane)


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    Re: Bad decisions were made today..

    I can't remember if I posted this somewhere else on the board. But I had a very interesting discussion with a very cocky salesgoon at Mom's Manchester a while back...

    I was giving a new R7 a look-over and an extremely cocky salesgoon came over to give me the spiel. I commented how far it had wondered from the '99 R7 I was somewhat familiar with. That condescending prick treated me like a school girl, speaking just loud enough to make sure anyone within earshot could hear him, basically telling me what an idiot I am. Gave me the whole, "I've been involved with motorcycling my whole life" bit. All the while I was calling it up on my phone. Dipshit grabs my phone, canters over to his computer and taps away. I could tell by the following 30-45 seconds of silence that he was crafting his mud-in-the-face reply. It was fuckin' hilarious waiting for it. He made some back-handed comment about that one being back in '99, blah-blah-blah.

    Now we had a couple customers that were kinda following along from a distance. Just loud enough for those who were listening to hear, I basically told him that someone with his motorcycle knowledge should really know the product he's selling and maybe the brief history. I got a chuckle, he just sat at the desk looking dumfounded. Being the narcissistic prick he was, he of course had to get the last word once again mentioning that it WAS back in '99, and it had nothing to do with the current model. My reply before trotting out was, "yeah, except the R7 moniker, huh?" I got a couple more chuckles after that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoneman View Post
    he of course had to get the last word once again mentioning that it WAS back in '99, and it had nothing to do with the current model.
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