Fz1 Service manual
Pages 445, 447
Fz1 Service manual
Pages 445, 447-449?
Can't figure out how to attach the whole manual as a PDF.
The link works.. ill try to get some time tonight to look it over
tough diagram to read... they dont make it easy.. as far as I can tell... it could be your dash cluster, or the ECU... but it seems the ECU only controls the ground for the headlight..
as far as I can tell, the turn signal circuit is on its own.. but there are indications that the indicators in the dash ( left turn/right turn) etc, have diodes. They also all share the same ground..
its safe to say the ground going out of your dash is ok since other shit works..
also.. it appears one of the right turn signals shares the same ground as the headlight..
did you pull one of your right bulbs at a time and see what the blinker does??
Did you check to make sure all fuses are ok?
a bad bulb can cause the fast blinking but does not explain the dimm light in the dash..
the only other thing you can do is start carefully inspecting the harness to make sure its not pinched anywhere which would cause a short across circuits.
Thanks for taking the time to look at the wire diagram, glad I'm not the only one that struggled reading it.
Fuses are okay
Pulled a front turn signal bulb with same results as now, faster rate of blinking and right turn signal indicator constantly on.
Put the right front back and pull the right rear.
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All bulbs plugged in/ignition on:
- instrument panel normal
- left turn signal normal flash rate
- right turn signal results in faster flash rate and high beam indicator flashing with turn indicator
- no headlights
All bulbs plugged in/bike running:
- high beam indicator on, low beams activated
- right turn signal indicator on all the time
- right rear turn signal bulb on all the time
- right turn signal activated, fast flash rate, no flashing high beam indicator
- no headlights
Killed engine via kill switch not ignition:
- right turn signal rate was now normal
- no headlights
Removed right rear turn signal bulb/ignition on:
- high beam indicator on, low beam activated
- right turn signal indicator on
- left turn signals fine
- no headlights
Removed both right turn signal bulbs/ignition on:
- right turn signal indicator is off
- activating right turn signal switch, fast flash rate, turn signal indicator is also fast
- left side turn signals are normal
- no headlights
Removed both right turn signal bulbs/bike running
- right turn signal indicator is off
- activating right turn signal switch, fast flash rate, turn signal indicator is also fast
- left side turn signals are normal
- no headlights
Removed both right turn signal bulbs/bike running:
- unplugged left headlight bulb (right headlight already unplugged) high beam indicator shuts off
- removed cover to left headlight bulb, all 3 terminals had ~14.08v low/high beam I'm assuming one side should be a ground?
- no headlights
... have you checked your regulator/rectifier? Not to be a complete ass, but when the one on my Tiger 955 was going it shut the fuel pump off on me, dimmed the headlights, turned the rear directionals on, and flashed every idiot light on the dashboard.
New one fixed it.
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Not a bad idea Danny500.. but I'm completely confused about the flasher continuing to flash rapidly while both right side bulbs are out... That makes no sense..
I put the multi-meter on the battery with bike nut running 12.8v. I start the bike and the meter went to 13.8v, revved the bike a few times then I saw 14.4v and it stayed around 14.5v.
Last edited by duganc1717; 08-12-15 at 09:09 PM.
so... the only thing I dont understand is if I am looking at a ground or not... its not typically the symbol for ground.. the 1st pic is what I think may be the ground for the right signals.. it actually shares the same ground as the headlights..
the 2nd pic is the right turn and left turn grounds.. I think.. if not, it means they go to another wiring diagram somewhere... and I cant find it... it should be the ground side of the circuit however.
the 3rd pic is the dash... the area i circled is the right side turn indicator.. i still think there is a bad ground or a short across circuits.... this could also happen in an electronic device..
does the turn signal switch feel ok??
im not sure if its possible.. but can you unplug the cluster and still be able to turn on the key to test the turn signals???
im not sure if the ECU would freak out.. it looks like the connector to the dash has a dozen wires going to it..but if you can, and the signals work.. its the dash..
so if u can, put all the light bulbs back in... unplug the dash, turn the key on and try the blinkers..
the fact that the right blinker still flashes fast with both bulbs out indicates that there is a short after the flasher.. everything after the flasher is all the turn signals and the indicators in the dash..
the fact that the dash is still connected and the bulbs were out but the flasher was still going indicates a short either between the switch and the dash, or the dash itself.
Last edited by duganc1717; 08-31-16 at 09:18 PM.
Before you take it, try to do the dash.. I think it's that because you seem to have multiple circuits affected.. The only other thing it could be is a cut across multiple wires...
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Last edited by duganc1717; 08-31-16 at 09:21 PM.
In general, with a turn signal, the light itself provides resistance to current flow (hence it produces light) and functions as a ballast. The relay that flashes the lights depends on the load of the ballast to flash the lights for the correct period of time. When the light is missing (or the bulb has burned out) it's as if the ballast isn't there, and as such the relay will flash more quicker than normal because it's under less electrical load.
If I remove the front bulb from my VFR's turn signal, and then turn the indicators on, they will flash much faster than if both bulbs were present. Plug the bulb back in and it goes back to normal.
So.. if they are still flashing fast.. with just the dash indicator on, then I'll assume the indicator is drawing too much current which would cause the rapid flash.. which I was trying to isolate by having everything back to normal and disconnect the dash to take it out of the picture.. I'd expect the blinkers to work..
Yes.. if that blk wire is ground for the headlights and you grounded it and shit worked then I would argue that it's the bad ground..
That ground was the one I circled in the picture.. it shares with the right blinkers..
Last edited by duganc1717; 08-31-16 at 09:22 PM.
Tough question.. wiring diagrams don't always show everything that is connected.. in other words, there may be other circuits that are spliced into that ground that the signal diagram isn't showing. Best bet would be to splice a wire into the ground and ground that wire
Last edited by duganc1717; 08-31-16 at 09:23 PM.
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