New CBR 1000 RR SP

[CBR929RE]

More power generally makes a bike more difficult to ride...just saying.

while I agree with this because its true. there's also more to it. the CBR and BMW I compared were vastly different in physical size too. I also rode SVM's 2011 ZX10R. it felt short and a little wide but I was very comfortable on it and it was easy to ride quick. I didn't even bother passing people on the straights, I waited till the corners cause it was more fun.

I would imagine that the CBR is the easiest to ride. It's supposed to feel like a 600cc with more power. I still think Honda can squeeze more power out of that mill and still retain it's midrange.

yup that's exactly what it feels like. I agree Honda could easily crank out more power and still keep the engine sweet. they just choose not to for whatever reason. Just look at the TT Legends bikes at the IOMTT last year. best bike on the grid and it was essentially just a fully HRC kitted bike.

I think Honda should shake things up & go with a V4 powered liter bike.

that's been a rumor for a couple years now but it turned out "production" meant a new cheaper GP bike not a new street bike that we all want. still rumors of it swirling though.

Honda and Suzuki have both been asleep in the motorcycle market for awhile now.

Whether you like it or not, how can either of their liter bikes compare to the hype of the new zx10, RSV4, s1000, 1199 or even the cross plane r1 (which isn't even that new anymore)? Seriously Honda (and Suzuki)... get off your asses and bring something new or interesting to the table.

but neither one of them will. Suzuki probably doesn't have the money to do anything revolutionary and I can't say it enough but Honda just doesn't seem to care much about winning the literbike battle in America. they are the largest motorcycle manufacturer in the world so they're happy selling low tech small bikes to the rest of the world and making a killing doing it.

It's about sales and marketing. People can defend the current bike and how/where they are going to ride it however they want, but with lower HP numbers and fewer electronics than the rest of the bikes in it's class, you can bet sales #s will be slow and low.

that's exactly it, its as much a marketing tool as it is a performance item.

[backinthesaddle]

Buddy of mine says one of the reasons he got an RC8R was its just a pure motorcycle. He mocks my new 636 with all its band aids.

[csmutty]

K5/K6 were just twitchy bastards. HUGE power that hit like a punch in the face, and chassis that made it feel like it hit even harder.

My 06 R1 smokes savs 06 gsxr1k. Now he has an excuse.

[HRCfan1]

It is marketing but marketing doesn't make a great bike. Great bikes do.

[HRCfan1]

I disagree. The street is the only place where all of that power will be tapped. (wrongly... but true). Highway shenanigans, rolling drags, standing start drags, even just winding out 4th or 5th gear to the top...

I've ridden tons of race tracks. Never have I been to one where there was enough room to wind out a liter bike.

Unless you live in snoozeville where the roads are straight you are not using all that a liter bike has to offer on the street.

[GixerJockey]

Unless you live in snoozeville where the roads are straight you are not using all that a liter bike has to offer on the street.

Well, that's the opposite of accurate...

[LXnastynotch93]

I reckon a really good rider may be able to wring out a 1000 to it's potential on the street.

Really though even a 600 is "too much" for the street. We could probably all be just fine riding around bikes with half the power.

That's where personal preference comes into play. If you're a compitent rider and want a rocket ship between your legs that you can carve up twisties with, then rock a 1K. Hopefully my 750 lasts another 10-15k miles without having any major problems, and then maybe I'll move up to a 1000RR. I told myself I would never get one but who knows.

[HRCfan1]

Well, that's the opposite of accurate...

Says you.

[ilikenapalm]

186 to the moon.

[GixerJockey]

My 06 R1 smokes savs 06 gsxr1k. Now he has an excuse.

Not likely... Maybe he's just afraid of it.

When it warms up, I'll go grab my '05 and show you how bad your R1 sucks.

Unless you live in snoozeville where the roads are straight you are not using all that a liter bike has to offer on the street.

Yes, highways... you know, those really strait roads when you can actually wind out a bike to 180+ mph? Curvy roads where you can confidently drag a knee are called race tracks.

[jwm2k3]

Well to stay on topic a bit (I know...how dare I?) This new Honda is awesome looking, the suspension gives me wood and Hondas are just great bikes. Are there other great bikes? Of course...

[Rosco61]

Well to stay on topic a bit (I know...how dare I?) This new Honda is awesome looking, the suspension gives me wood and Hondas are just great bikes. Are there other great bikes? Of course...

Yes!
Does any other Jap liter bike come with Ohlin's?

[GixerJockey]

Yes!
Does any other Jap liter bike come with Ohlin's?

Not currently. The last one was that limited R1 from a few years back. '06 or so.

[LXnastynotch93]

I think the only bikes that come with Ohlins from the factory now are either Ducati's, the Daytona 675R, the CBR SP, the Aprilia RSV4 Factory, and the F4RR?

It's a damn shame that more Japanese bikes don't have Ohlins from the factory. I guess they just figure the people who want to track them will install it after the fact.

Really impressive from Triumph though. The 675R with Ohlins front and rear, and Brembo monoblocs. Tons of carbon fiber on that bike too. I've sat on one before, and I fell in love. Some day when I have the money I will own one, that's for sure.

[HRCfan1]

I love the 675R. For the price difference from the standard 675 you get a heck of a lot for your money. You couldn't duplicate an R for the same price. I had a deposit on a 13 but ultimately I went with the CBR. It was a tough decision but it came down to reliability. I'd still love to park one in my garage.

[R7]

I only had 1 bike with Ohlins...

[LXnastynotch93]

I only had 1 bike with Ohlins...

I mean it's an R7 and all but the real question is: Did it whoolie?

[R7]

I mean it's an R7 and all but the real question is: Did it whoolie?

Yut uggggggg

[HRCfan1]

Holy crap. An R7. That is HIGH on my list of dream garage bikes.

[sdog30]

Yes!
Does any other Jap liter bike come with Ohlin's?

I'd rather buy a new r1 and then buy ohlins and put them on.

[duganc1717]

I only had 1 bike with Ohlins...

Picture Whore..........

[GixerJockey]

Picture Whore..........

He gets to... He had a fucking R7.

[Degsy]

don't get too wrapped up in "From the factory" Ohlins products. They aren't anything like buying Ohlins Components aftermarket. The R and T products on production bikes (R7 excluded) are not much (if any) better than stock Showa etc.

[HRCfan1]

He gets to... He had a fucking R7.

Agree

[LXnastynotch93]

don't get too wrapped up in "From the factory" Ohlins products. They aren't anything like buying Ohlins Components aftermarket. The R and T products on production bikes (R7 excluded) are not much (if any) better than stock Showa etc.

So true. Even if I got a 675R I would probably end up doing the race ready Ohlins stuff anyway.