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**beet** · 03-30-10, 01:40 PM

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...93519473068153

**scubasteveRR** · 03-30-10, 01:44 PM

holy shit in your pants!!

**butcher bergs** · 03-30-10, 01:59 PM

...and that's why we dont let off the gas or hit the brakes in a FWD vehicle after turning in.

What a dumb shit.

Pucker factor = 10

**beet** · 03-30-10, 02:10 PM

My mouth went dry just watching..

**Punjistick** · 03-30-10, 02:11 PM

I liked watching how fast the airbag deploys.

R1 · 03-30-10, 02:15 PM

eh, it was just a scooter...

**obsolete** · 03-30-10, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by bergs

...and that's why we dont let off the gas or hit the brakes in a FWD vehicle after turning in.

What a dumb shit.

Pucker factor = 10

Isn't it really ill advised to unload the rear tires of any vehicle mid turn?

**butcher bergs** · 03-30-10, 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by obsolete

Isn't it really ill advised to unload the rear tires of any vehicle mid turn?

Well yeah but moreso in a.....wait, you know how to drive, why the hell are you asking me?

For those who might not know, lifting off or braking mid-turn is more difficult to get away with in a FWD, as seen in this video. The driver basically made this car crash from doing exactly both things you're not supposed to.

**obsolete** · 03-30-10, 02:30 PM

I would say you're much worse off letting off the throttle in a rear engine/mid engine rear drive car.

R1 · 03-30-10, 02:32 PM

Originally Posted by obsolete

I would say you're much worse off letting off the throttle in a rear engine/mid engine rear drive car.

I would say your worse off for pushing your limits on public roads without the proper fire safety suit, helmet, and 5 point harness....

TAKE IT TO THE TRACK!!!!!

you get a Subaru and now your the expert in driving cars huh?

**butcher bergs** · 03-30-10, 02:32 PM

Oh fer cryin' out loud....

We're talking front engine cars here, are we not?

We should fight.

**obsolete** · 03-30-10, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by R1

you get a Subaru and now your the expert in driving cars huh?

Nope, I suck at driving this car. True story.

Bergs, I didn't know we were limiting the discussion to that. I actually don't know why it is worse in a FWD car. I just know it's not really a great plan either way.

P.S. No, you'll bring a shiv.

**butcher bergs** · 03-30-10, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by obsolete

Bergs, I didn't know we were limiting the discussion to that. I actually don't know why it is worse in a FWD car. I just know it's not really a great plan either way.

P.S. No, you'll bring a shiv.

True, it isn't ideal in any case with the exception of AWD vehicles.

It's worse for a front engine FWD vehicle because rear wheel spin is not controllable. The instant that ass-end breaks loose there's really only one option, find the gas pedal.

P.S. I told you once already, that's not a shiv.

**beet** · 03-30-10, 04:07 PM

Originally Posted by beet

My mouth went dry just watching..

Originally Posted by Frankenstein

I'm confused. None of the comments seem to match what I just watched.

**e30addict** · 03-30-10, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by Frankenstein

I'm confused. None of the comments seem to match what I just watched.

We watching the same thing?

Granted it doesn't show it, but the only way to induce that much rotation on a FWD car is to snap off the gas (or yank the e-brake). Even a gross steering input would be hard pressed to cause sometime to rotate like that (more likely to just wash the front end). Edit: just watched it again - dumbass had his brakes on as well. Rookie mistake.

So, basically; trailing throttle oversteer. Driver entered corner fast, got scared, snapped off throttle, sending weight forward and giving the rear a chance to swing around.

On a FWD car you only have steering to help catch the spin. Getting back on the power doesn't help as much on FWD. You basically hope you can transfer enough weight to the back to slow the yaw rate and give the steering correction enough time to take effect before you hit something. On a RWD car, you can get back on the power and try to slide it out with a much better degree of controllability. You reach the point of no return at much earlier yaw angle in a FWD car too.

Pretty much what Bergs said.

AWD? countersteer and keep it pasted to the floor. Rally style

**dhuze** · 03-30-10, 05:15 PM

All I can see is a triple

I call for a

**beet** · 03-30-10, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by dhuze

All I can see is a triple

I call for a

You want me ta ban ya? I got my finger on the button!

R1 · 03-30-10, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by dhuze

All I can see is a triple

I call for a

What the Funny Fuck are you blabbering about?

**zombie** · 03-30-10, 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by Frankenstein

I'm confused.

It's a state of being ya know what I mean
reach for your inner consiousness
It'll help , really it will

**OreoGaborio** · 03-30-10, 06:20 PM

Holy shit

**beet** · 03-30-10, 06:45 PM

LOL I was doing some funny shit it was like beetish.

**beet** · 03-30-10, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by Frankenstein

For some reason, at work that link was playing an asshole jumping a bike into a dumpster...well over it, actually. At home it shows the car/scooter.

my fucking side hurts

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