Dirt Bikes Seized by Boston Police

[Garandman]

“ Last night, June 4, around 8:00PM, Troopers of the MSP Motorcycle Unit were conducting enforcement action on the Southwest Corridor in Boston's Fenway area.

The Troopers were able to identify dozens of mopeds and scooters that were improperly registered or being operated by unlicensed individuals. The Troopers cited the operators, who at the time were inside an establishment having a meal. In total, Troopers impounded 14 illegal mopeds and scooters in the area of Dartmouth Street and in the Fenway.

In recent weeks, many complaints have been received by citizens and residents regarding mopeds and scooters operating erratically and without regard to traffic laws. The Troopers received many thanks from passersby and residents as the mopeds were secured, and towed from the area. ”



https://www.mspnews.org/post/trooper...rcement-action

[zxme]

https://www.facebook.com/share/WWq26...ibextid=WC7FNe

[Vovchandr]

So a guy just died locally. Traffic accident on his bike.

He used to do wheelies on his bike everywhere, burnouts, standing on bike and other tricks. Used to speed into triple digits speed on his car everywhere all the time. His whole public persona and Instagram was based on general disregard for traffic law.

You think people are saying good riddance?

No, he was white and rich and the entire automotive community is somber and is missing him. Funny how double standards work.

He was also a huge supporter of calling himself a law abiding citizen.

These problems will never go away if especially car/bike people cant pick a moral lane to stick to. You can't be okay with your friends breaking traffic law all the time but then be like "it's the other guys that are bad"

In the public eye your friends doing wheelies are same as the dirt bikes doing wheelies and are both part of the problem.

[SteveM]

So a guy just died locally. Traffic accident on his bike.

He used to do wheelies on his bike everywhere, burnouts, standing on bike and other tricks. Used to speed into triple digits speed on his car everywhere all the time. His whole public persona and Instagram was based on general disregard for traffic law.

You think people are saying good riddance?

No, he was white and rich and the entire automotive community is somber and is missing him. Funny how double standards work.

He was also a huge supporter of calling himself a law abiding citizen.

These problems will never go away if especially car/bike people cant pick a moral lane to stick to. You can't be okay with your friends breaking traffic law all the time but then be like "it's the other guys that are bad"

In the public eye your friends doing wheelies are same as the dirt bikes doing wheelies and are both part of the problem.

How many of his vehicles were unregistered, stolen and not permitted on the streets?

He sounds like an asshole.

[Vovchandr]

How many of his vehicles were unregistered, stolen and not permitted on the streets?

He sounds like an asshole.

I doubt any were stolen, don't need that when you're wealthy.

Not permitted on the streets is a grey area. NY wouldn't allow them to pass inspection here meaning can't register either so Montana loophole was used for some.

What's the crux on the strong feelings for the dirt bikers? Is it the theft felony, the lack of paperwork for DMV or is it the disregard for public and traffic laws? Is it combination of all? Is just traffic law and public safety okay to break if you bought your vehicle and registered it? Is it how often they do it? Is it the fact that so many so it? Or the fact that cops don't catch them?

Genuinely curious where people draw lines. Just about all of us have have broken traffic law pretty brazenly at some point in time. Yet there aren't threads about crazy speeders on highways or just sport bikes doing wheelies.

[SteveM]

I'll let Gixxer take the bait.

He sounds like an asshole. But all assholes have friends, and they may have mourned his passing.

Were there any reports of him and 25 of his closest friends shutting down highways or taking over streets?
Were there any reports of him and 25 of his closest friends assaulting motorists?
Did he ever run from the cops and get involved in a high speed chase.

Why don't you post links to his reported passing and activities?

[e30addict]

Genuinely curious where people draw lines. Just about all of us have have broken traffic law pretty brazenly at some point in time. Yet there aren't threads about crazy speeders on highways or just sport bikes doing wheelies.

Vague and movable line so you'll nitpick the fuck out things, but I mostly care about stealing peoples shit and purposely fucking with people for fun. As for traffic laws etc... do whatever floats your boat as long as it doesn't sink mine kind of thing generally speaking.

[FriskyDingo]

[Vovchandr]

Vague and movable line so you'll nitpick the fuck out things, but I mostly care about stealing peoples shit and purposely fucking with people for fun. As for traffic laws etc... do whatever floats your boat as long as it doesn't sink mine kind of thing generally speaking.

No idea if it's private. I'll send it to you.


Don't have any info if he ran from cops but there's a picture of him doing a wheelie in front of one on his insta saying "IDGAF"

Interesting notes about take overs and assaults.

Edit: quoted wrong person.

[SteveM]

I see no difference.

When someone dies on a motorcycle, their friends in the "community" remember them fondly.

This rider was, in my personal opinion, an asshole rider.

Whether he was doing something stupid when a "gust of wind" caused one of the group to lose control and some of them had to "lay her down" is unknown. The deceased was one of the "had to lay her down" riders.

Link to public news story. https://www.unionleader.com/news/saf...d866b543d.html

[Vovchandr]

Fair enough and I agree. Thanks for the explanation.

[gixxer72]

I see no difference.

When someone dies on a motorcycle, their friends in the "community" remember them fondly.

This rider was, in my personal opinion, an asshole rider.

Whether he was doing something stupid when a "gust of wind" caused one of the group to lose control and some of them had to "lay her down" is unknown. The deceased was one of the "had to lay her down" riders.

Link to public news story. https://www.unionleader.com/news/saf...d866b543d.html

Lol, the article actually said they “laid them down”!!

I’m surprised they didn’t report the star of the article “died doing what he loved”.

[SteveM]

Lol, the article actually said they “laid them down”!!

I’m surprised they didn’t report the star of the article “died doing what he loved”.

Yup, I put it in quotes BOTH for the direct quote and for the gallows humor.

All the non-news sources absolutely harp on the doing what he loved bit.

Back in my other life, I used to wonder if my obituary would include the phrase, "Steve died doing what he loved most, screaming at a fucktard subcontractor who had failed to perform and wanted ridiculous claims."

[FriskyDingo]

....Back in my other life, I used to wonder if my obituary would include the phrase, "Steve died doing what he loved most, screaming at a fucktard subcontractor who had failed to perform and wanted ridiculous claims."

I made sure in my will it states "DO NOT use the phrase "he lit up the room" in the obituary...

[gixxer72]

Yup, I put it in quotes BOTH for the direct quote and for the gallows humor.

All the non-news sources absolutely harp on the doing what he loved bit.

Back in my other life, I used to wonder if my obituary would include the phrase, "Steve died doing what he loved most, screaming at a fucktard subcontractor who had failed to perform and wanted ridiculous claims."

Still living that life and I can tell you nothing has changed, it may even be worse.

[SteveM]

Still living that life and I can tell you nothing has changed, it may even be worse.

Absolutely worse! I haven't completely escaped it, managing the completion of +$100M of road and bridge work for the surety after the contractor imploded.

[e30addict]

Absolutely worse! I haven't completely escaped it, managing the completion of +$100M of road and bridge work for the surety after the contractor imploded.

24 and 140?

[SteveM]

24 and 140?

That’s one of the 30 projects!

[Garandman]

I doubt any were stolen, don't need that when you're wealthy.

Not permitted on the streets is a grey area. NY wouldn't allow them to pass inspection here meaning can't register either so Montana loophole was used for some.

What's the crux on the strong feelings for the dirt bikers? Is it the theft felony, the lack of paperwork for DMV or is it the disregard for public and traffic laws? Is it combination of all? Is just traffic law and public safety okay to break if you bought your vehicle and registered it? Is it how often they do it? Is it the fact that so many so it? Or the fact that cops don't catch them?

Genuinely curious where people draw lines. Just about all of us have have broken traffic law pretty brazenly at some point in time. Yet there aren't threads about crazy speeders on highways or just sport bikes doing wheelies.

And you didn’t name this individual because…..

There are, sadly, a number of motorcyclists killed in New England states recently.

And neither your post nor profile says where you live. So is “local” Dover, Lincoln, Hopkinton or Swellesley?

[Vovchandr]

And you didn’t name this individual because…..

And neither your post nor profile says where you live. So is “local” Dover, Lincoln, Hopkinton or Swellesley?

This individual has been DMed to Steve as he asked and he found articles on him.

I didn't name him publicly because it doesn't really matter. He existed and I described him to have a discussion and see why some people chose to see things different depending on who's doing it.

I came across a video of him posted by him doing 210 mph on a car on a public highway around light traffic. Certainly a crime of privilege as I doubt Boston dirt bikes are doing those speeds.its also pretty brazen to post all these road violations publicly.

Ironically I can guarantee you that he would also been very upset with all these illegal dirt bikes in cities and towns. Read that as you will. Only abortion people justify and are okay with are their own and only illegal street behavior people are okay with and justify is their own as well.

[SteveM]

This individual has been DMed to Steve as he asked and he found articles on him.

I didn't name him publicly because it doesn't really matter. He existed and I described him to have a discussion and see why some people chose to see things different depending on who's doing it.

I came across a video of him posted by him doing 210 mph on a car on a public highway around light traffic. Certainly a crime of privilege as I doubt Boston dirt bikes are doing those speeds.its also pretty brazen to post all these road violations publicly.

Ironically I can guarantee you that he would also been very upset with all these illegal dirt bikes in cities and towns. Read that as you will. Only abortion people justify and are okay with are their own and only illegal street behavior people are okay with and justify is their own as well.

There's a lot going on here....

I never asked for a DM. I asked why it was posted without support.

With a DM, or without it if you just search for incident during this bike week, everything, and I mean everything pops up easily about this guy.

This is a guy who apparently did any number of stupid things on bikes and in cars. It is ironic that he did not die doing any of those things, but in a seemingly clear cut accident caused by a gust of wind and losing control of the motorcycle. There's no evidence he was wheelie-ing or traveling at excessive speed, just that he "laid her down" and died. This, in and of itself is interesting because "laying her down", while stupid and not the fastest way to stop any bike, isn't generally fatal by itself. It's an intentional low-side and unless the now sliding rider tumble onto their unprotected head, strikes a guardrail, tree or other immovable object, or is hit by another vehicle, the only usual injuries from a low side a some broken bones, road rash, etc.

Onto the corollary, if any, between this guy's behavior and the urban kids on dirtbikes and the idea of his privilege.

Is there an element of privilege in that he had more expensive, faster toys, perhaps. To me the real issue here is "time and place." It seems that he did his dumb stuff largely out of others' way. If you were on the road when he sped by at 200mph, it might have startled you, but the he was gone. Is it stupid, yes, is it a "public nuisance" not really.

I very much doubt that there's a pre-ride meeting within the urban bike-life community that goes, "OK , we're headed out tonight to have fun and do stupid stuff on bikes that may not be legally ours and may not belong where we're riding them. So here's the deal, let's keep a low profile until we get somewhere where we can rip it up without a lot of other people around. We're headed to the industrial park where it's quiet and no one cares what we do, but do not, I repeat DO NOT do anything to attract 5-0 on the way there."

It seems like the opposite it true, that public disruption is the point of what they do, that messing with the public is at least half the fun.

And that's where and why this guy gets less criticism, because he didn't set out to intentionally piss of his neighbors to prove he's a badass.

And please don't try the "They have nowhere to go!" I know Dorchester, Mattapan, Roxbury like the back of my hand and if you drop me in anywhere with 15 of these kids, I could find a place within 3 miles where no one would be paying attention and the only potential denial to accessing the space would be easily cured with some bolt cutters.

[Gixxer]

Park and rides, second or third shift would be ideal to gather a bunch if “enthusiasts” to “hoon” or whatever the proper vocab is.
Pretty sure the -takeover- is the intoxicating part.

[SteveM]

Park and rides, second or third shift would be ideal to gather a bunch if “enthusiasts” to “hoon” or whatever the proper vocab is.
Pretty sure the -takeover- is the intoxicating part.

And that's why the cops care, because their bosses care, and their bosses are hearing from voters that this shit must stop.

There's a girl on my quiet street with a 2 stroke who sometimes runs it up and down the street. Never more than 1/2 an hour, virtually no traffic, not late at night. I met her and her dad at the annual block party some of the younger neighbors organize and we talked bikes, which was vastly more interesting than hearing about how much my younger neighbors are winning at life.

Doing the wrong thing the right way is not rocket science, so I have to assume that doing it the wrong way, annoying as many neighbors as possible, messing up traffic, and scaring people is the point, not just a simple by-product of their riding.