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    Quote Originally Posted by Vovchandr View Post
    It's such a dishonest rhetoric.

    He wants a society where laws themselves (somehow) stop people from doing things he doesn't like BUT he doesn't want to live in a society that is extremely policed where everybody is forced to follow all the laws that are on the books to an extreme. IE Society where laws work (are policed).
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    Re: Dirt Bikes Seized by Boston Police

    Quote Originally Posted by Vovchandr View Post
    It's such a dishonest rhetoric.

    He wants a society where laws themselves (somehow) stop people from doing things he doesn't like BUT he doesn't want to live in a society that is extremely policed where everybody is forced to follow all the laws that are on the books to an extreme. IE Society where laws work (are policed).
    You're missing that the police are part if the equation and are more tip of the spear when it comes to the justice system. If the police are hamstrung and not allowed to do anything in the first place, or when they do, get cock blocked by the rest of the system it's all for naught. At that point it's more the system you make fun of libertarians for. All the laws and nothing done is the same as no laws at that point

    Not going down your nitpick rabbit hole on this to keep you amused today.

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    Re: Dirt Bikes Seized by Boston Police

    Quote Originally Posted by e30addict View Post
    You're missing that the police are part if the equation and are more tip of the spear when it comes to the justice system. If the police are hamstrung and not allowed to do anything in the first place, or when they do, get cock blocked by the rest of the system it's all for naught. At that point it's more the system you make fun of libertarians for. All the laws and nothing done is the same as no laws at that point

    Not going down your nitpick rabbit hole on this to keep you amused today.
    You're painting with a broad brush but I'm not allowed to "nit pick" and ask for what exactly you mean in your examples.

    It still sounds like a police problem and not a law problem. If the law can remain the same and the police can be given more reign which would cause an improvement with no changes to the law... the weak variable is the police and their enforcement powers, not the laws. To counter your point, you can have the "strongest law" in the world and if its not enforced by police and justice, it's the same as no law at that point.

    I make fun of Libertarians for a whole slew of other things not really law policies, at least not on the public side but rather business and their ethics side.


    Police being hamstrung or ineffective to begin with is an argument I'd back up. Whether that's a desired side affect in a "free" society or not is a different argument.

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    Providence Scooter crash settlement...
    Providence to pay $11M in moped crash settlement
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime...nt/ar-AA1mSZON
    PROVIDENCE, R.I. (WPRI) — The family of the man critically injured in a 2020 officer-involved moped crash reached a $11 million settlement with the city of Providence, Target 12 has learned.

    In November, the settlement between Jhamal Gonsalves and the city (and other officials named as defendants) was reached, then unanimously approved the following month by the City Council’s Committee on Claims and Pending Suits.

    Details of the settlement had been kept under wraps until the documents were signed by all parties to the case.

    Target 12 obtained a copy of the settlement Friday afternoon, which states the payments will be made in two equal installments of $5.5 million. The first payment needs to be made by Feb. 15, while the second must be paid out in full on or before July 31, 2025.

    Jude Kerrison, an attorney for the Gonsalves family, told Target 12 that the money received in the settlement would be put into a trust and that Gonsalves would receive help managing it.

    “It sounds like a very big number, and it is, but he’s going to need care for a very long time,” Kerrison said.

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