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The Fowler Formula

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    The Fowler Formula


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    Re: The Fowler Formula

    That was very cool, thanks for posting. Long live little POS Hondas...

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    Re: The Fowler Formula

    CB160:Seattle = EX500:New England

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    Re: The Fowler Formula

    I just sold my CB160... Was gonna follow the formula to the letter.

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    Re: The Fowler Formula



    John Travolta?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheIglu View Post
    CB160:Seattle = EX500:New England

    Since they don't make CB160's anymore they're just becoming rarer and rarer, and eventually will become just as expensive as new bikes are today.

    Why not race decade old ninja 250's? There probably just as cheap and there's more then ample supply of them on craigslist....

    Honestly, I figure it would be cheaper and easier to get parts for a 10-20 year old bike then it would be to find parts for bikes from the 1960's... Especially a model that was only made for a few years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Why not race decade old ninja 250's?
    Because it's not within the spirit of that particular race class....along with extensive mods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bergs View Post
    Because it's not within the spirit of that particular race class....along with extensive mods.
    I'm a noob. Please explain?

    Couldn't you just have a rule set saying that everything about your ninja 250 motor must be stock? No carbon fiber anything.. etc.. etc... Ninja 250's wouldn't be within a cb160 spirit? But wouldn't have a spirit of it's own?

    Plus there mad cheap and it's really easy to find parts for ninja 250's...

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    Re: The Fowler Formula

    Ultimately it is beyond an explanation but I'll try:

    The CB160 race class is a class of its own and exactly that is what attracts the riders. Yes, you *could* apply the same rules and ideas to an EX250 class but then the class wouldn't be about racing bikes that were produced in the 60's and certainly not produced with club-racing in mind.

    The Ninja 250's are newer, come with plastic bits and simply don't offer the same exclusivity.

    It's clear to me what these riders are attracted to but as I said, it's not something which can be accurately put into words.

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    Re: The Fowler Formula

    If you want to start something in the same sprit, lets have a Savage 650 class. Cheap, plentiful, easy to source parts for, cake to work on, and has absolutely no place on the track. I've joked with a friend a few times about trying to set one up, rear sets, clipons, raise the forks in the clamps far enough that the rules will require nerf padding on them... Could be fun. : )

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    Re: The Fowler Formula

    That track looks like a national park. Must go now...

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    Re: The Fowler Formula

    Aww yeah... Formula S40

    Rules - Bone stock except for the following:
    Tires
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    Airbox may be modified or removed and/or replaced with a pod filter
    Forks may be revalved but must retain OEM damping rods, emulators are ok, ATK20 gas cartridges are right out
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    Re: The Fowler Formula

    Looked like Miller to me...

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    Re: The Fowler Formula

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    I'm a noob. Please explain?

    Couldn't you just have a rule set saying that everything about your ninja 250 motor must be stock? No carbon fiber anything.. etc.. etc... Ninja 250's wouldn't be within a cb160 spirit? But wouldn't have a spirit of it's own?

    Plus there mad cheap and it's really easy to find parts for ninja 250's...
    If you are looking for something in the spirit of the 160 class and you are near Loudon get an EX500. The class is established and is cheap.

    You are not going to get anyone interested in starting a new 250 class at Loudon (believe me I tried).

    You could run a 160 with AHRMA or talk to them about doing a 160 class.

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    Re: The Fowler Formula

    The USCRA has a 160 class now, and runs at Loudon.

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    Re: The Fowler Formula

    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post
    If you are looking for something in the spirit of the 160 class and you are near Loudon get an EX500. The class is established and is cheap.

    You are not going to get anyone interested in starting a new 250 class at Loudon (believe me I tried).

    You could run a 160 with AHRMA or talk to them about doing a 160 class.
    My old boss started a class called Formula 100 in USCRA 2 years ago. He purchased and built the Honda for $800.

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