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Need help got a ticket on a permit

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    Need help got a ticket on a permit


    Long story short ventured into nh and got a ticket for operating without a license, no court date and paid the ticket already, I'm on my permit in mass and I need to know if mass will suspend my permit and what else could happen

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    Re: Need help got a ticket on a permit

    Quote Originally Posted by GixxerChris View Post
    Long story short ventured into nh and got a ticket for operating without a license, no court date and paid the ticket already, I'm on my permit in mass and I need to know if mass will suspend my permit and what else could happen
    Were you cited for no license because NH won't recognize MA's permit? Or because you couldn't provide proof of having one?

    Assuming this is a motorcycle permit. Are you a junior operator (under 18)? Even then, I'm not sure it'd matter unless there were other infractions. I'm trying to think of why this ticket would cause MA to suspend. I think the only outcome might be your insurance going up for receiving a moving violation. And that only happens if/when NH reports it. In theory, they report everything. In practice, it seems like they don't always do it, or MA doesn't get around to making use of it.

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    Re: Need help got a ticket on a permit

    Restrictions of a mass permit for motorcycles:
    Can't ride at night
    No passengers
    Can't ride out of state (hence nh)

    I don't think nh and mass talk with each other, so just pay the fine to nh.

    I remember getting pulled over for no inspection sticker on a friend's bike when I first got my permit. Just had to pay the fine and got points on my insurance, but nothing happened to my permit. I was over 18 and had a class D license already, so that might make a difference.

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    Re: Need help got a ticket on a permit

    Yes because they won't recognize mass permits, ticket is rsa 263:1, driving without a license, license required. No court date already payed.

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    Yeah I hope they don't talk.

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    Re: Need help got a ticket on a permit

    IIRC MA and NH RMV/DMV have reciprocity. The only state that doesn't in this area is VT.

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    Re: Need help got a ticket on a permit

    So what does this mean for me?

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    Re: Need help got a ticket on a permit

    If you're not already signed up for an MSF Basic Rider Course, worth it for:
    - just good instruction
    - skip the road test
    - offset additional insurance charges you may incur due to the moving violation

    Other than that, expect normal interactions with the Mass RMV with maybe some additional financial hassle down the road.

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    Re: Need help got a ticket on a permit

    Quote Originally Posted by GixxerChris View Post
    So what does this mean for me?
    From the RMV website you need a six month clear record to get a license.

    That said, my very limited experience with NH is that if you pay right away, they don’t report it to MA. Not sure how you could find out what your record is in advance.

    You might be able to skirt the issue by taking the MSF BRC course ASAP, recommended anyway.

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    Re: Need help got a ticket on a permit

    Does any of this entail suspension? What happens after my suspension? How long until I know...?

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    Re: Need help got a ticket on a permit

    Quote Originally Posted by GixxerChris View Post
    Does any of this entail suspension? What happens after my suspension? How long until I know...?
    Suspension questions? Talk to Pete at GMD computrack.

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    Re: Need help got a ticket on a permit

    What?

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    Re: Need help got a ticket on a permit

    Quote Originally Posted by GixxerChris View Post
    What?
    Call Peter at GMD Boston. He is the expert on suspension questions, and is always willing to offer a bit of free advise over the phone.

    (508) 876-9407

    If Pete isn't immediately available, ask for KB. He's also well versed in these matters.

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    Re: Need help got a ticket on a permit

    Quote Originally Posted by GixxerChris View Post
    What?
    They are attempting to make a funny...

    Pete works on suspension components..

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    Re: Need help got a ticket on a permit

    Quote Originally Posted by csmutty View Post
    They are attempting to make a funny...

    Pete works on suspension components..
    Dick... How hilarious would it have been for Pete, or KB, to field that call?

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    Re: Need help got a ticket on a permit

    So will I get suspended or nah?

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    Re: Need help got a ticket on a permit

    Quote Originally Posted by GixxerChris View Post
    So will I get suspended or nah?
    Yup, you're fucked 6 ways from Sunday

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    Re: Need help got a ticket on a permit

    Although there is reciprocity between MA and NH, often ticket information does not show up, so you may not have any issue. Moreover, the data is mostly focused on submission to the merit rating surcharge board, rather than the disciplinary arm of the RMV. In the unlikely event that you do receive a suspension notice, or encounter an issue when seeking licensure, you can and should request a hearing to explain why it was necessary for you to venture into NH on your motorcycle and that you encountered an issue (speeding?) as a result of such requirement to be at your destination in NH. I too, would highly recommend the MSF Basic RiderCourse; it offers very good instruction, eliminates the need to take the RMV road test, is inexpensive, and offers a discount on your insurance forever that will easily offset the cost of the course. Best of luck.

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    Re: Need help got a ticket on a permit

    For real?

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    Re: Need help got a ticket on a permit

    I was pulled over for speeding but not cited thankfully, I already took the msf but In mass you must have drivers ed to get a motorcycle endorsement if under 18 so they would not give me my class m since I didn't have class d drivers ed so already payed 375 for that course it ended up being a waste of money

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    Why is this the case?

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    Re: Need help got a ticket on a permit

    Quote Originally Posted by GixxerChris View Post
    I was pulled over for speeding but not cited thankfully, I already took the msf but In mass you must have drivers ed to get a motorcycle endorsement if under 18 so they would not give me my class m since I didn't have class d drivers ed so already payed 375 for that course it ended up being a waste of money

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    Re: Need help got a ticket on a permit

    ? I'm confused

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    Re: Need help got a ticket on a permit

    Quote Originally Posted by GixxerChris View Post
    ? I'm confused
    Did you call Pete at GMD and attempt to clear things up?

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    Re: Need help got a ticket on a permit

    No I didn't

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    Re: Need help got a ticket on a permit

    Well then you're really not trying to clear this up , are you?

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