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Hey Paul - 2017 new KTM 790 Duke

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    Re: Hey Paul - 2017 new KTM 790 Duke

    Mmmm. Tasty.


    Though I'd be careful if I were that rider. He could lose a lot of change real quick riding like that on those white lines.

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    Re: Hey Paul - 2017 new KTM 790 Duke

    That is a fine motorbike.

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    Re: Hey Paul - 2017 new KTM 790 Duke

    The trend back to parallel twins is an interesting one. I've never enjoyed a motor in that config, but it does seem to have benefits. Perhaps modern tech can make of satisfying?

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    Re: Hey Paul - 2017 new KTM 790 Duke

    goddamn that thing is hot. snub tail ... i'd fix the headlight though.

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    Re: Hey Paul - 2017 new KTM 790 Duke

    I'm not a huge fan of the aesthetics, it's ok, but nothing jaw dropping. It has all the potential to be a loudon killer though. Enough zip, a little extra travel, and it looks to be pretty stable with that long swingarm.
    Like everyone else, I'm really waiting for the adventurized version. But I'd not trim my nose up at it at all.

    And unlike Paul, I can find peace with a Ptwin that puts out. Kawi did a great job with their 650. I expect this has all those attributes plus some of that euro pedigree with better brakes and squishies.
    Color me interested.

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    Re: Hey Paul - 2017 new KTM 790 Duke

    So what's this do to the Duke 690? I can't see the market position for it between the 790 and 390.

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    Re: Hey Paul - 2017 new KTM 790 Duke

    The swingarm only looks long cause the bike has no ass. At least it has a heated seat from the factory!

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    Re: Hey Paul - 2017 new KTM 790 Duke

    Quote Originally Posted by Kurlon View Post
    So what's this do to the Duke 690? I can't see the market position for it between the 790 and 390.
    I'd expect it replaces the Duke 690 in the line, and the single will be just for dirtbikes. IMO, this is tempting -- just enough more engine to be really roadworthy; what KTM needed to compete with the smaller Monsters/Scramblers.

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    Re: Hey Paul - 2017 new KTM 790 Duke

    It's odd that the small displacement market is so brisk, and the middleweights are all heading toward 800 cc and UP. Though I admit that I love the 821 duc motor. Very streetable power.

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    Re: Hey Paul - 2017 new KTM 790 Duke

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_E_D View Post
    That is a fine motorbike.
    Is this a Red Molly reference?

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    Re: Hey Paul - 2017 new KTM 790 Duke

    As long as no one cries. lol

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    Re: Hey Paul - 2017 new KTM 790 Duke

    Well then, my hat's off to you...

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    Re: Hey Paul - 2017 new KTM 790 Duke

    Hmm Looks tasty from my house.

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    Re: Hey Paul - 2017 new KTM 790 Duke

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_E_D View Post
    It's odd that the small displacement market is so brisk, and the middleweights are all heading toward 800 cc and UP. Though I admit that I love the 821 duc motor. Very streetable power.
    Yes, the M821 is my favorite current Duc.

    I think the briskness of the small displacement market is part of the cause of the middleweights moving up. For a long time, heavyweights were mostly around 1000cc, and middleweights 600-650cc, and the lightweight was the EX250. Now the lightweights have blossomed with a variety of bikes from 300cc to 500cc, and the heavyweights have been moving up to 1200cc or 1300cc, so the middle also adjusts to both of these developments by moving to 800cc to 900cc.

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    Re: Hey Paul - 2017 new KTM 790 Duke

    Where's my lady supposed to go on that thing?

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    Re: Hey Paul - 2017 new KTM 790 Duke

    Quote Originally Posted by Chippertheripper View Post
    I'm not a huge fan of the aesthetics, it's ok, but nothing jaw dropping. It has all the potential to be a loudon killer though. Enough zip, a little extra travel, and it looks to be pretty stable with that long swingarm.
    Like everyone else, I'm really waiting for the adventurized version. But I'd not trim my nose up at it at all.

    And unlike Paul, I can find peace with a Ptwin that puts out. Kawi did a great job with their 650. I expect this has all those attributes plus some of that euro pedigree with better brakes and squishies.
    Color me interested.
    i dont know know about a loudon killer unless its just TDs. without knowing the actual displacement (since KTM just makes up numbers anyways), its most certainly too big for LW and not big enough for MW.
    i do like it though. when i saw it i had hoped it was a v twin. that would really shorten my pants

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    Re: Hey Paul - 2017 new KTM 790 Duke



    But for fucks' sake : KTM, stop making movies and start making motorcycles!!! I think the market has been waiting for products with this engine for 3-4 years now.

    Swap the SV sisters for one of these and the DL for the same thing in ADV packaging.. go all-orange, all the time. Would work for me.

    Just as easy if Yami brought a FZ07 Tenere to market. An FZ for track and a mini-tenere for street. Yeah, that would work too.

    Market is looking good these days.

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    Re: Hey Paul - 2017 new KTM 790 Duke

    In an interview at EICMA, the KTM guy hints at 110hp, under 11k Euro price tag, and a weight possibly under 160 kg (352 lbs) with a full tank of gas.

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    Re: Hey Paul - 2017 new KTM 790 Duke

    Wow.

    That's attractive with those specs fo'sho. SV killer, just $4k more $$$.

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    Re: Hey Paul - 2017 new KTM 790 Duke

    Quote Originally Posted by TheIglu View Post
    Wow.

    That's attractive with those specs fo'sho. SV killer, just $4k more $$$.
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    Re: Hey Paul - 2017 new KTM 790 Duke

    After tossing the coin at an SV to make it have the same level of suspension/brakes as this thing, this KTM is right in there as damn competitive.

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    Re: Hey Paul - 2017 new KTM 790 Duke

    forget SV more like Ducati 1100 numbers

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    Re: Hey Paul - 2017 new KTM 790 Duke

    Ducati 821 numbers. That is exactly what my hyper makes. It is a sweet spot for sure.

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    Re: Hey Paul - 2017 new KTM 790 Duke

    Those stats are incredibly attractive.

    The latest SV is dying on the vine.

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