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    HF tire changer

    Used to have the HF tire changer.
    It was fine, then traded it for 2 6 packs of beer after losing a garage in a mover

    Now i'm in the search again

    HF has the 2 parts
    Manual Tire Changer
    Motorcycle Tire Changer Attachment
    tire changer and MC tire adapter with bead breaker for 85$ total

    Cant remember if this is the lowest they go? the 20$ discount coupon doesnt work on this for some reason?

    good price? or wait for anpother sale??

    actually the code worked and got me 9$ off 1

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    Re: HF tire changer

    Not gonna lie even at $85 that's tempting to pick up. It costs me more than that to have mine swapped, and I work at a bike dealership.

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    Re: HF tire changer

    i'm cheap... like stupid cheap make my wife another 1/4 mile to buy her a cheaper soft pretzel to save 25 cents at a carnival

    she loves telling that story

    I swapped my tires at my buddys this past sat and did soem other work on the XR.
    Tto save my commute time to him, its better to have this and do it myself.
    Its not stupid easy but doable

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    Re: HF tire changer

    I like mine, use it all the time. Unfortunately I only like it once you add the "Mojoblocks" and lever. Easily doubles (or more) the cost of the setup. But oh so worth it.
    Oh, and remove the dumbass arm assembly that comes over the top and replace with a length of steel rod.

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    Re: HF tire changer

    Quote Originally Posted by nhbubba View Post
    I like mine, use it all the time. Unfortunately I only like it once you add the "Mojoblocks" and lever. Easily doubles (or more) the cost of the setup. But oh so worth it.
    Oh, and remove the dumbass arm assembly that comes over the top and replace with a length of steel rod.

    Cool beans. this is the lowest price they get correct?
    I "sold" mine to Igluu way back when.

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    Re: HF tire changer

    So you've done away entirely with the "vertical" bit that sticks off the end of one of the arms?

    Just using the arms, the blocks (with mojoblocks), and a rod through the hub?

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    Re: HF tire changer

    On the dirty bikes? $15 for a decent set of spoons. Done.

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    Re: HF tire changer

    Quote Originally Posted by e30addict View Post
    On the dirty bikes? $15 for a decent set of spoons. Done.
    agreed can be done
    but i'm old and just want to stay off my knees etc.

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    Re: HF tire changer

    Quote Originally Posted by jasnmar View Post
    So you've done away entirely with the "vertical" bit that sticks off the end of one of the arms?

    Just using the arms, the blocks (with mojoblocks), and a rod through the hub?
    Yes. Wrap the rod in something to keep from marring the inside of the bearings. I used a length of fuel line. I've seen others wrap the rod in foam tape. The rod that comes with the changer will probably not fit through any of your motorcycle wheels. Okay, maybe that winnebago 'wing you drive.

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    Re: HF tire changer

    Quote Originally Posted by black View Post
    agreed can be done
    but i'm old and just want to stay off my knees etc.
    Knee pads come in handy or throw the wheel on a workbench.

    I thought you were cheap

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    Re: HF tire changer

    Quote Originally Posted by e30addict View Post
    On the dirty bikes? $15 for a decent set of spoons. Done.
    Road bikes and supermotos. Thin carcass track rubber practically jumps off the rim with this setup.

    Thin wheel'ed dirty setups do not work very well with this setup. The jaws push the bottom bead so far into the dish that you cannot easily work with tubes or rim locks.

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    Re: HF tire changer

    Quote Originally Posted by nhbubba View Post
    The jaws push the bottom bead so far into the dish that you cannot easily work with tubes or rim locks.
    Would "thinner" mojoblocks help?

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    Re: HF tire changer

    Quote Originally Posted by nhbubba View Post
    Road bikes and supermotos. Thin carcass track rubber practically jumps off the rim with this setup.

    Thin wheel'ed dirty setups do not work very well with this setup. The jaws push the bottom bead so far into the dish that you cannot easily work with tubes or rim locks.
    What jaws?

    I haven't tried it with rim locks yet, but the 21" on the Tiger jumps right off with spoons. I assume it should be similar on my WR or his dirty toys.

    I didn't have any issues with the DR with tubes either, granted there weren't rim locks on it.

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    Re: HF tire changer

    Maybe. But then they'd probably break easily.

    I should add that I had to grind the top of the jaws of the HF stand down when adding the mojoblocks. The blocks are the correct size, but the jaws on my stand were much taller and made the whole pushing of the bottom bead thing worse.

    Spoons are probably the right answer for dirt tires.
    They are the only answer for super heavy ice tires.

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    Re: HF tire changer

    Quote Originally Posted by e30addict View Post
    What jaws?
    On the HF stand you don't want.

    17's don't "jump right off" with irons. Especially heavier sport touring rubber. I struggled with the 19" front on the strom too. On wider road wheels this stand with a lever is nice. Super easy to get the tire on with the stand too.

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    Re: HF tire changer

    If you could get dimensions we could try printing some (but strength could be a problem).

    We could make them so that there's a piece of bar behind to add strength.

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    Re: HF tire changer

    That "mojo" bar is the real expensive part of the equation. But like I say, worth it. I think I paid more for the bar than I did the rest of the setup.

    I can pull one of the blocks out and measure if there is interest. There are like 2-3 different permutations of stands and blocks. I obviously only have one of the permutations.

    Oh, the bead breaker on the HF stand is nice too. I haven't found a bead yet it wouldn't break. Even the truck tires that were mounted to the rusted steel trailer wheels I picked up recently.

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    Re: HF tire changer

    Think that's about what I paid. If it isn't eligible for the 20% off coupon that's as cheap as they'll get unless you stumble across one of their sales and they just happen to be marked down. Seen a few used ones on CL in the past, I guess you might get a user setup for cheaper?

    I built a base for mine out of 4x4s, but if you can bolt it to the floor you're probably better off. The height makes it tough to get leverage. Also replaced the vertical rod with a steel rod from Home Depot like nhbubba recommended. Going to get some mojoblocks/lever and make a new base in the spring because it can be a real bitch with some wheels.. but it does work. I cut up a laundry detergent bottle and use that + spoons along with the lever, covered the stock blocks with duct tape to avoid scratching and it just barely gets the job done.

    Last couple changes I used ratchet straps and snaked them between the tire and rim with lots of soapy water, wrapped them around the base of the changer and cranked them down to get the final bead on the rim. Works amazing if you're struggling with the lever or a tough tire, and doesn't scratch anything.

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    Re: HF tire changer

    Quote Originally Posted by e30addict View Post
    Knee pads come in handy or throw the wheel on a workbench.

    I thought you were cheap
    I make the wife walk 1/4 miel to saved a 25 cents..... Me I'm fragile and worth it

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    Re: HF tire changer

    Quote Originally Posted by nhbubba View Post
    That "mojo" bar is the real expensive part of the equation. But like I say, worth it. I think I paid more for the bar than I did the rest of the setup.

    I can pull one of the blocks out and measure if there is interest. There are like 2-3 different permutations of stands and blocks. I obviously only have one of the permutations.

    Oh, the bead breaker on the HF stand is nice too. I haven't found a bead yet it wouldn't break. Even the truck tires that were mounted to the rusted steel trailer wheels I picked up recently.
    we were tyring to break an atv tire bead this past past sun using c clamps and spoons-- no way. would this do it you think?

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    Re: HF tire changer

    Quote Originally Posted by black View Post
    we were tyring to break an atv tire bead this past past sun using c clamps and spoons-- no way. would this do it you think?
    Kickstand.

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    Re: HF tire changer

    good idea

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    Re: HF tire changer

    We used the kickstand of another Tiger to pop the bead on a 17" rear on a different Tiger side of the road in WV. It's pretty effective but a little awkward due to the angles.

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    Re: HF tire changer

    Quote Originally Posted by black View Post
    we were trying to break an atv tire bead this past past sun using c clamps and spoons-- no way. would this do it you think?
    (Some) ATV wheel beads are the work of Satan. I have seen a few that couldn't be done with my car tire changer at work. Ended up cutting the tire away with a utility knife and using a die grinder to sever the bead cable. The wheels had no drop center and a little rust behind the bead. I've not used the HF changer, but I doubt it has more power than a pneumatic breaker with 180 psi behind it.

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    Re: HF tire changer

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    we were tyring to break an atv tire bead this past past sun using c clamps and spoons-- no way. would this do it you think?
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