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    i like the new HJC C-15 helmet style. i like the $70 price more but dame they don't have blue or black.

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    personaly i think budget helmets suck... but they are better than nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil_Weasel View Post
    but they are better than nothing.
    It's Snell approved so it will certainly protect your mellon.

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    Buddha was wearing a Polycarbonate helmet when he crashed in 3. Ask him what he remembers about it.

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    i wasn't implying that it wouldn't protect your head... just that budget helmets suck. the vents, the fit, the faceshields functionality, that sort of thing.

    ...and i'm still not convinced that a polycarbonate helmet is as good as a composit one, despite what snell says. i've seen and heard enough first hand accounts at the track that i'm convinced i won't be putting my head in one.

    ...than again if that's all you can afford, go for it. a cheap helmet still beats none

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil_Weasel View Post
    i wasn't implying that it wouldn't protect your head... just that budget helmets suck. the vents, the fit, the faceshields functionality, that sort of thing.

    ...and i'm still not convinced that a polycarbonate helmet is as good as a composit one, despite what snell says. i've seen and heard enough first hand accounts at the track that i'm convinced i won't be putting my head in one.

    ...than again if that's all you can afford, go for it. a cheap helmet still beats none

    agreed

    that's why i give those helmets to my passengers... girls who cant remember anything are hawt

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    HJC helmets fit my head better than any other brand. I have one that is five years old and I can't stop wearing it because its so comfy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by highsider View Post
    HJC helmets fit my head better than any other brand. I have one that is five years old and I can't stop wearing it because its so comfy.
    Talk to Mic (zombie) he is trying to unload a brand new HJC large, spies relica helmet...it doesnt fit my head right or i wouldve got it

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    they're about $150 at the store. i have (2) CL-14 but i'll buy a CL-15 if it's half price and newer slicker model.

    the one im using right now only scratch little bit from last crash test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smooth R6 View Post
    Talk to Mic (zombie) he is trying to unload a brand new HJC large, spies relica helmet...it doesnt fit my head right or i wouldve got it
    Cool, I will. And then maybe I can "borrow" it and never give it back like the helmet he "loaned" me at VIR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by highsider View Post
    Cool, I will. And then maybe I can "borrow" it and never give it back like the helmet he "loaned" me at VIR.
    this is why we can't have nice things chris

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    For What it is worth, I have had a cheap as crap Vega helmet that sucked, and an HJC Cl-14 that i thought was awesome and the best helmet in the world until i bought my Suomy Ventura and it is a much smaller shell, lighter, better vents and also better wind protection on my chin/neck when it is cold. The best part is that you can fine them brand new online for about $150 shipped if you look hard enough.

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    suomy - i love em - will always use em now

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    Quote Originally Posted by l3uddha View Post
    i crashed?


    Kham I had the CL-14. I liked it until i got a level 3 concussion and was unresponsive at the concord ER for a few hours from only a minor bump.
    you can't prove that if you had aria on you still wouldn't get the same condition.

    hey you need to learn how to crash or not to crash.

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    i like HJC

    i own this helmet in silver/black

    didn't get it for 70 bucks though

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    Quote Originally Posted by l3uddha View Post
    i crashed?


    Kham I had the CL-14. I liked it until i got a level 3 concussion and was unresponsive at the concord ER for a few hours from only a minor bump.
    Guess you don't remember my Ex that works in the ICU, that's too bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kham View Post
    you can't prove that if you had aria on you still wouldn't get the same condition.
    With out getting into brand vs brand war here, there is no doubt, at least from my observations of 22 plus years of riding and racing, street, track, woods & MX, the more expensive, well known brands have fewer head injuries than the discount brands. The polycarbonate shells are fine for football and hockey, but I wouldn't put one on my dog. I know they pass the Snell & DOT tests, but most of the head injuries I've seen happened to people wearing discounted, off brand and/or polycarbonate shell helmets.

    Head injuries are about the only thing that really scare me. Once you have one there is no going back. Broken bones heal, (I've had several) soft tissue damage can be repaired, even most spinal cord injuries can be worked around, (I build shocks for a mono-ski manufacturer that supplies several US Disabled Ski Team members), head injuries are a different deal. If you're not afraid of being spoon fed Gerber carrot puree and getting coloring books every Christmas, then buy the cheap helmet, put on a tank and flip flops and wheelie all the way to head injury hot line.

    I will aways buy the best helmets from the most reputable manufacturers. Even my off road helmets cost several hundred dollars. Kham's statement is true there is no guarantee that any given brand WILL protect me better, just the fact it MIGHT is good enough for me.

    Don't even start the whole street vs. racing bullshit either. Head injuries (in fact most injuries) are not caused by how fast you are going. They are caused by how fast you stop. Thirty MPH into the hood of a Buick is far more violent than 130 MPH into a gravel trap. Trust me, I've done both.

    As far as I'm concerned you should buy the best helmet from a reputable manufacturer, that fits correctly. (Maybe we should have a helmet fitting seminar at my shop?) If you can't afford $500-$800 dollars to protect the one part of you can't be repaired or replaced, then you can't afford this sport. (brutal I know, but true).

    I've been to one to many dead/injured rider funeral/benefit to argue about it. This will be my only post on the subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmdboston View Post
    With out getting into brand vs brand war here, there is no doubt, at least from my observations of 22 plus years of riding and racing, street, track, woods & MX, the more expensive, well known brands have fewer head injuries than the discount brands. The polycarbonate shells are fine for football and hockey, but I wouldn't put one on my dog. I know they pass the Snell & DOT tests, but most of the head injuries I've seen happened to people wearing discounted, off brand and/or polycarbonate shell helmets.

    Head injuries are about the only thing that really scare me. Once you have one there is no going back. Broken bones heal, (I've had several) soft tissue damage can be repaired, even most spinal cord injuries can be worked around, (I build shocks for a mono-ski manufacturer that supplies several US Disabled Ski Team members), head injuries are a different deal. If you're not afraid of being spoon fed Gerber carrot puree and getting coloring books every Christmas, then buy the cheap helmet, put on a tank and flip flops and wheelie all the way to head injury hot line.

    I will aways buy the best helmets from the most reputable manufacturers. Even my off road helmets cost several hundred dollars. Kham's statement is true there is no guarantee that any given brand WILL protect me better, just the fact it MIGHT is good enough for me.

    Don't even start the whole street vs. racing bullshit either. Head injuries (in fact most injuries) are not caused by how fast you are going. They are caused by how fast you stop. Thirty MPH into the hood of a Buick is far more violent than 130 MPH into a gravel trap. Trust me, I've done both.

    As far as I'm concerned you should buy the best helmet from a reputable manufacturer, that fits correctly. (Maybe we should have a helmet fitting seminar at my shop?) If you can't afford $500-$800 dollars to protect the one part of you can't be repaired or replaced, then you can't afford this sport. (brutal I know, but true).

    I've been to one to many dead/injured rider funeral/benefit to argue about it. This will be my only post on the subject.
    now that's a good post

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    Quote Originally Posted by l3uddha View Post
    go and get your $70 helmet if it makes you happy. you worry about your head, I'll worry about mine.
    A $70 helmet would have been fine for you at the Drunk-A-Thon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by l3uddha View Post
    i crashed?


    Kham I had the CL-14. I liked it until i got a level 3 concussion and was unresponsive at the concord ER for a few hours from only a minor bump.
    Quote Originally Posted by lady flyin' low View Post
    i own this helmet in silver/black

    didn't get it for 70 bucks though

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    Hey Peter... A helmet fitting seminar would be a good thing. I have seen too many helmets roll off the head during a crash/accident on the street.

    Either it was too big, strapped too loose or not strapped at all.

    Nice having it off the head to scoop the brain matter back into but I would rather the brain matter had stayed in the head.

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    Serious question for gmdboston and anyone else with useful knowledge on the subject:

    My head has never fit well in anything other than an HJC. I have an AGV right now that was roughly $350, but it seems to shallow, like my chin pokes out the bottom. Before that, I had a $700 Arai, which was too narrow no matter what I did with the foam inside. I have tried on Suomys and Sharks, and neither seems to fit me well either (though I dont remember how.)

    So - which is safer? An HJC that fits well and carries the same ratings (higher end HJC, if there is such a thing) and fits perfectly comfortably, or a spendy Arai that is uncomfortably tight but presumably made better?

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    HJC makes fiberglass type helmets.

    HJC AC-12 Elbowz Carbon Motorcycle Helmet :: New Enough Motorcycle Apparel

    Also (and I am sure you know this) Arai has different shells. My head fits in a Arai Quantum but not in an Arai Profile... Have you tried different models?

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    HJC is for round head people. HJC CL-14 - webBikeWorld

    i'll read these when i have time.

    Motorcycle Helmet FAQ - webBikeWorld

    note:
    "That issue contains a detailed article on an extensive test that was conducted on 16 different motorcycle helmets, ranging from the $89.00 Z1R (wBW review) to the $700.00 Schuberth S1 (wBW review). Their conclusion is that the inexpensive, polycarbonate shell Z1R transferred an average of 152Gs to the head-form, vs. 211Gs of the Snell-approved Scorpion EXO-700. "

    the lower the G the better i take it and "polycarbonate".

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