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lol. i don't see it as down vote it. i see it as i disapprove of the direction the American market has taken. as most know i often choose a different path.yea, i'm tapped in the head
i do like the AT! its bringing back the old school look
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It's not just the US market, it's a world wide phenomenon. And what's not to love, all the amenities of a sport tourer, without the forward lean. I've no desire to adventure ride my adventure bike, but absolutely love it for regular riding.
I agree with you, but the most adventure-y bike I ever owned was a Honda VFR1200X. I rode it to South Dakota and then returned home on the Northern Route over the Great Lakes. It was "not great" at this duty. I actually preferred my VFR800.
My ST1300's and not my Yamaha tracer 9GT are vastly better long trip sprot tourers than the adventure bike set, IMO.
But I will also admit that the Tracer 9GT doesn't have that "trip-around-the-world" look.
There are similarities between the adventure bike and HD crowds. Neither will admit it, but it's a similar need expressed in different looking packages.
Last edited by SteveM; 11-18-22 at 03:16 PM.
Primary difference I've noticed: My ST3 has happy cruising at 'possibly' above the posted limit... I had a limit to how long of a day I'd do on it, but it's interest in super cruising meant I could cover miles at a good clip. The Pan Am doesn't have the wind protection or gearing the ST3 had, but it's super comfy, and the wind on the highway isn't annoying. I cruise at a lower speed, but am happy to do so longer. Otherwise I've got all the storage I could want, wife is comfy, and if it gets at all shitty, I just don't care one the Pan Am.
Similarity to HD riders? I suppose? I still want to do TDs on my toy though.![]()
Last edited by Kurlon; 11-18-22 at 06:42 PM.
Yammie noob channel said the same thing. ADV bikes are excellent (sport) touring bikes. Minus the orange R/Rally variants, I think ADV bikes suck enough off road, that I say Just throw a dedicated street tire on it and call it a day
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I don't count the ST1300 / ST1100 in the SPORT Touring category, they are the entry points into the full tourer category along with the Goldwing in my mind. Bikes like the Ducati ST3/4, sport bikes with bags are what I'm comparing against.