Local shop refusing to mount tires,,,,

[nhbubba]

That's bullshit. Hot coffee in the lap, rolling SUVs, drunk-driving bar patrons.. this shit is getting out of control. Straight up bullshit.

[K13sman]

In the time it took me to read through this thread, I could have mounted and balanced the damn tire on my no-mar. With gas prices the way they are, bringing your wheels and online bought tires to a dealer for changing costs more than just their fee. Having your own machine makes the task as convenient as it can be.

[Garandman]

You most likely were not being offered blems, but being offered a price lower than allowed by the manufacturer.
By calling them blems they get around that issue. Lots of places do it.

I once got a temporary job at a Goodyear warehouse in NJ in college. I worked a weekend night shift, painting stripes on 1st quality tires so they could be sold at discount....

[jwm2k3]

You bunch of panseys...

Trade that zzr12 and buy a new bike from them....how do you expect them to keep the oxycontin and cocaine habbits going? Selfish bastard.

[nhbubba]

I once traded a truck because it needed tires. Seems like a rational reason to trade a bike too.

[Degsy]

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You bunch of panseys...

Trade that zzr12 and buy a new bike from them....how do you expect them to keep the oxycontin and cocaine habbits going? Selfish bastard.

Where did that come from? Lol

[RandyO]

I don't get it? why take the wheels off then take the wheel to a dealer ?

taking the wheel off is the hardest part of changing a tire, and that's why I take my bike to the dealer

[csmutty]

I don't get it? why take the wheels off then take the wheel to a dealer ?

taking the wheel off is the hardest part of changing a tire, and that's why I take my bike to the dealer

I disagree. Taking the wheel off is the easiest. Breaking the bead is the hardest part to changing a tire IMO.

[tropicoz]

I disagree. Taking the wheel off is the easiest. Breaking the bead is the hardest part to changing a tire IMO.

Well, yeah...for pre teens!!!!

[wheelieman14]

I disagree. Taking the wheel off is the easiest. Breaking the bead is the hardest part to changing a tire IMO.

For like $45.00 at Harbor Freight (and likely a 20% off discount coupon) you can pick up a bead breaker. I'd much rather change someone's tires (mount & balance) with their wheels already taken off the bike. Last tire I changed was a Harley front and got $40 for about 20 minutes of effort. I know bike shops don't want to change tires for cheap prices any longer (unless you buy their tires) but think $20/wheel is a reasonable price to swap tires & balance. A tire changer would be nice, but soapy water, tire irons, rubber mallet, bead breaker along with wheel balancing stand and some stick on weights is all it takes (knowing how to use all this stuff). I start at the valve stem to remove the old tire & end at the valve stem when mounting new tire.

[NobodySpecific]

I don't get it? why take the wheels off then take the wheel to a dealer ?

taking the wheel off is the hardest part of changing a tire, and that's why I take my bike to the dealer

Because I have wrenches and stands but I don't have a tire changing machine or tire irons? (FWIW I go to a friend's house that has the tools needed, not the dealer). It's not about physical difficulty, it's about availability of the tools and the knowledge of how to use them. Most people here know how to use a wrench, and that's all that's really required to take the wheel off. The tire requires specific tools that don't really serve any other purpose, which is why a lot of people don't have them.

[TheIglu]

I disagree. Taking the wheel off is the easiest. Breaking the bead is the hardest part to changing a tire IMO.

Not a chance. Breaking the bead takes about 10 seconds with a bead breaker. You can make a homemade one with 2x4's in about 20 minutes.

[csmutty]

Not a chance. Breaking the bead takes about 10 seconds with a bead breaker. You can make a homemade one with 2x4's in about 20 minutes.

Well I don't have one yet...sooo.

And still..taking the wheels off of a bike is stupid easy. Putting them on can be a PITA if you don't have help.

[RandyO]

Not a chance. Breaking the bead takes about 10 seconds with a bead breaker. You can make a homemade one with 2x4's in about 20 minutes.

an 8" or 10" c-clamp works too

[RandyO]

. Putting them on can be a PITA if you don't have help.

not if you got the equipment like a dealer

[tropicoz]

Well I don't have one yet...sooo.

And still..taking the wheels off of a bike is stupid easy. Putting them on can be a PITA if you don't have help.

I have to agree with this, particularly a rear wheel on a GSXR (my GSXR). It fekkin kills me. Just when I get the spacers, cush, chain, etc. all lined up - all I have to do is lift it into place and put the axle in, right? WRONG. I'll bump the caliper, drop a spacer and crush my fingers because my arms let go from fatigue. This goes on for about 5 times before I give up or smash it all with a ratchet.

[csmutty]

not if you got the equipment like a dealer

And what tools does a dealer have to put a rim back on a bike? I'm genuinely curious.

[Puppet]

I have to agree with this, particularly a rear wheel on a GSXR (my GSXR). It fekkin kills me. Just when I get the spacers, cush, chain, etc. all lined up - all I have to do is lift it into place and put the axle in, right? WRONG. I'll bump the caliper, drop a spacer and crush my fingers because my arms let go from fatigue. This goes on for about 5 times before I give up or smash it all with a ratchet.

Grab one of these from Corson: http://weraclassifieds.com/ads/gsxrr...liper-tool-12/

He's a racer from Seattle that maked this tool, designed to pop the axle out and hold the caliper in place. I have one for the SV and have one coming for the new R6. They work great. Makes mounting the rear tire significantly easier

[nhbubba]

Wedge the rear (or front) wheel into place using some 2x4 scraps and/or a wheel chock, then screw with the calipers and all that jazz.

[SRTie4k]

I've never had a problem getting the wheels back on my bike. The rear can be a bit tricky, bit I simply place my foot underneath it (while the bike is up on jack stands) to hold it in place while I slide the axle back in. Granted I remove the caliper, but its easier that way.

[TheIglu]

Yeah, I use the 2x4 method. You guys are making it too hard on yourselves.

You want a hard rear wheel to put on by yourself? Buy an EX500. Love those bikes, but MAN that is a bitch. My SV was delightfully easy.

[RandyO]

And what tools does a dealer have to put a rim back on a bike? I'm genuinely curious.

a professional bike lift/table , frees your hands up and makes it easy to line an axle up, doh!

[K13sman]

There's a lot to be said for single-sided swing arms.

[Degsy]

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At adrenaline we charge $40 a wheel if they are customer supplied tires. Just FYI. We are glad to do them. Don't look at it as an extra charge for supplying your own tires, look at is as a discount on mounting if you buy the tires from the dealer.

The shop shouldn't look at it as a money losing or break-even thing. They should look at it as a customer service that doesn't lose them money and could buy the "feel good" factor for the customer and lead to future sales from that customer and their friends.

[RandyO]

They should look at it as a customer service that doesn't lose them money and could buy the "feel good" factor for the customer and lead to future sales from that customer and their friends.