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I want to do the four Penguin/NESBC dates on the SV this year.
I assume the suspension bits are fine as Chip left them; almost certainly going to leave them alone for cost reasons anyhow, no idea how to 'set the sag' correctly, etc.
Question 1: Front brakes.
When I last rode it on the street consistently, the front brake lever sometimes needed a pump at long stoplights on hills; planning to replace the front master.
The outgoing front master is an Acosatto radial unit. I've never ridden this bike hard enough to have a strong opinion about its "brake feel" per se, I just need to be able to trust the front brakes. Should I just bite the bullet and get whatever "race brake" is being sold on svracingparts, or is there a significantly better value to be had?
Question 2: Tires/warmers.
Pretty sure I want new tires and a set of warmers. I don't plan to ride the bike on the street anymore, so could theoretically look at slicks. I'm not fast enough to need them, but am looking for as much confidence as I can get. Again, looking for the right value. Supercorsas plus warmers and forget it?
Question 3: Bodywork.
The bike currently has all the lights on. So many goddamned lights that took time and money to make legal after MA starting fining individual inspectors yada yada water under the bridge. I've made peace with deleting them all, and would like to put a number plate in place of the headlight. Is there anyplace that'll sell me just a race tail? Any preferred bracket setup for slapping a front number plate in place of a headlight bucket?
What else is definitely worth attending to? I want to embrace a spirit of "run what I brung" but I also want to show up all clean and responsible-like. Would love to see pre-season checklists from folks who have campaigned SV's in the past.
-Jared
ZX-4RR, R1200GSW, 701 E/SM, Hyperstrada 821 (FS!)
The stock front master on SV's is solid. Or, spend a ton of money to get the perception of better performance. Your choice.
2021 KTM Duke 890 R
2016 BMW S1000XR
1982 Honda CB750F Super Sport
I need a spare lever for one of those. Let me know if you want to part with it.
Big vote for Woodcraft warmers and the Pirelli tires. Served me very well for my racing/track days.I went through several cheaper brands of warmers that were harder to install, got left plugged in, and several times left me with a cold tire at exactly the wrong time. Woodcrafts are solid and easy to use. The Supercorsa DOT gave me a little more (mostly mental) confidence if there was a sprinkle or any speedi-dri/pine needles/goose shit on the track. Never noticed any difference in the feel or capability between those and the Superbike slick. Slick certainly made me feel like a racer, even if my skills weren't competition grade.
99 + 02 SV650 ex-race - 91 FJ1200 street - 03 KDX220R woods - 12 WR450F motard/ice
I'm guessing the fronts might need a bleed? that accosato is as good as it gets on the front of an sv.
edit, and if my memory serves me correct, I put that together with rbf600 or 660 which, after 3-4 years now, is likely due to be replaced.
Last edited by Chippertheripper; 03-10-17 at 12:04 PM.
Cliff's Cycles KTM
NETRA enduro B-vet
Close your eyes, look deep in your soul, step outside yourself and let your mind go.
As far as a race tail or other bodywork goes I've had good luck with Sharkskinz
Jake
2006 ZX-10R
1999 Kawasaki ZRX1100
I recall bleeding the front but the problem persisted. Might have done it wrong, of course, but eliminates fluid age as an issue.
Found this for a tail section:
03-15 SV650 Supersport Tail
-Jared
ZX-4RR, R1200GSW, 701 E/SM, Hyperstrada 821 (FS!)
I would keep the master and do three things:
- Replace the brake fluid with Motul RBF 660
- Change the brake pads, CL60 or EBC are great
- If it doesn't already update the brake lines to braided stainless steel
Go with the Pirelli DOTs (SuperCorsa V2).Question 2: Tires/warmers.
Pretty sure I want new tires and a set of warmers. I don't plan to ride the bike on the street anymore, so could theoretically look at slicks. I'm not fast enough to need them, but am looking for as much confidence as I can get. Again, looking for the right value. Supercorsas plus warmers and forget it?
Good for youWhat else is definitely worth attending to? I want to embrace a spirit of "run what I brung" but I also want to show up all clean and responsible-like.
Isaac LRRS/CCS #871 ECK Racing | Spears Enterprises | GMD Computrack Boston | Pine Motorparts/PBE Specialists | Woodcraft | Street & Competition | MTag-Pirelli | OnTrack Media
Bike: SV650, Bride of Frankenstein
Sinking firm lever while holding brakes is an internal master leak IF there is no external line/caliper leak. All the fancy fluid/bleeding/bling pads/braided lines/resurfaced rotors won't fix it.
99 + 02 SV650 ex-race - 91 FJ1200 street - 03 KDX220R woods - 12 WR450F motard/ice
Isaac LRRS/CCS #871 ECK Racing | Spears Enterprises | GMD Computrack Boston | Pine Motorparts/PBE Specialists | Woodcraft | Street & Competition | MTag-Pirelli | OnTrack Media
Bike: SV650, Bride of Frankenstein
Replace the fluid and bleed the brakes, try again. Bet its fine.
Skip the warmers for track days. Only need for racing.
Skip the body work unless you find'em cheap and/or really want. Do you even need number plates for NESBC?
Does Canaan even have power available? If not, add a genny to push those warmers to your shopping list.
The pirelli race tires everyone is recommending are a nice choice for either track days or racing. I found them forgiving when cold for track days without warmers while still being good for racing. More expensive than most "aggressive" street sport tires, but more sticky. I'd +1 that recommendation.
But they are fine w/o warmers if you are patient and warm them up for a lap or two.
I'd spend your budget on gear for yourself; quality leathers, helmet, gloves, boots, back and chest protectors. Maybe even an airbag or neck brace setup. Safety first, bike bling second.
Agreed. Practice how you play.
For a number plate, just snag a dirty bike front plate and zip tie it on. Plenty of nekkid SV's run it that way.
UFO Front Number Plate | MotoSport
I went to MMI I know what Im doing here chief
Thanks to everyone so far.
I have a Vanson hybrid suit that's a little short for me; will leave the back protector in for sure but probably remove the ridiculous aero-hump. On the fence about removing the shoulder pads to alleviate some nut pressure.
-Jared
ZX-4RR, R1200GSW, 701 E/SM, Hyperstrada 821 (FS!)
Do you have spare wheels/rains?
For those events, I would be most worried about breaking stupid little things that might not be available from vendors or other riders at the track. Clip-ons, rearsets, and frame sliders are easy to break. Maybe ask Eric if there will be vendors at the events, and if not, consider how much it would suck if you crash in the first session/event and are stuck without something critical. A spare radiator would be good too. The 03's have an extra wide one that is easy to destroy, even in relatively gentle lowsides. 04+ will bolt-on (without the fan, but you don't need it).
I don't notice it as much on the bike, but that may just be change of focus. I'll check over the weekend. Fearing the worst, is there anyplace local to BOS that actually stocks suits I could try on? I'd rather not "click and hope" at the likely price point, even if returns aren't a bear.
-Jared
ZX-4RR, R1200GSW, 701 E/SM, Hyperstrada 821 (FS!)
Vanson.
Seacoast (although not that close to Boston).
There is some racing component to this whole NESBC thing though, right? That would necessitate warmers.