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    Re: Luxo sport tourers


    Is that even a cop bike? It doesn't have the hockey-puck bag latches.. nor the big red cop-bike buttons on the pods. Did he really install police wig-wag lights? He should be shot!

    $11,000 for a 15 year old motorcycle?! See.. this is what I'm talking about.

    And do you have any idea how much of a pain in the ass it is going to be to clean those spoked wheels.

    If you really have $11g's to spend and want a classic, at least get an '09+ with the improved frame and 6-speed like this.

    Ooo. More from this dude in Hadley. This guy ridesalot!

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    Re: Luxo sport tourers

    Quote Originally Posted by Not Sure View Post
    I'm on my fourth BMW and first pure sport tourer with a new R1200RS. I've had only one minor mapping issue with an '08 K bike that was quickly sorted out. I wouldn't read too much into shaft drive issues you hear about. I just see those as the vast minority. Outside of possibly a wing in the future, I'll always be Euro leaning.
    Visited this man the other day. Had not seen his R1200RS in person yet. I vaguely remember seeing a photo teased here on the NESR, but somehow discounted it.

    Bike is 105948x more epic in person than I ever gave credit for. Ran home, did some interneting, asking around and am ready to decree the R1200RS to be a really, really, really swell motorbike. I like this thing so much better than the late model R1200RTs. Naturally my one issue is they seem to want just about ALL the money for it.

    Still, Bubba needs to finangle a test ride on one of these. May need to firmly fix this mambajamma on my radar.

    520 lbs wet.. so lighter than most of the luxo tourers. (More than 100lbs less than the FJR!)
    120HP (20 shy of the FJR) x 90 lbsft (10 short of the FJR) Twin power delivery; broad torque band over top-end power. My schtick.
    Smaller screen than most. Little more towards the sport end of the sport touring spectrum.
    Adjustable screen. (Manually adjustable.. but tool-less, can be adjusted from the seat.) Most indicate it is effective and adequate for super-slab use.
    Protection seems a nice compromise between minimal and excessive, something I liked about the FJR.
    Still upright ergos. Felt immediately comfortable to my nearly 40 y/o feel.
    Looks adequately inviting for a passenger.
    Nice solid bags. 63L of storage in the factory bags. A few L more than the FJR.
    Option to take a top case if desired. Available parcel shelf for lashing camping gear and/or a drybag for those of us not offended by that look.
    Available with all the shizzle built in from the factory; no screwing with aftermarket cruise, grip heaters, GPS mounts, etc.
    Top shelf brakes, suspension, components.

    I hear the BMW "active" suspension may actually be worth the coin. Was not as convinced with the Japanese offerings (ie FJR1300ES, Tenere ES).


    There was also an R1150RS once.
    Although I really wish they'd made a "hex-head" era (mid 2000's) RS. That'd be my new target. That era RT is close but just too much tourery. And the -ST doesn't appeal.

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    Re: Luxo sport tourers

    I'm sure your financial planner can help you figure out the purchase!

    Neglected rides coming up soon Bubbs, so hop on one of those and we can switch bikes for a bit. Plus only two more years before my bike-A.D.D. kicks in, and at that point I'll cut you a good deal on this ride.

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    Re: Luxo sport tourers

    Quote Originally Posted by Not Sure View Post
    Neglected rides coming up soon Bubbs, so hop on one of those and we can switch bikes for a bit.
    A solid offer. One I would not subject you to following through on. No way handing you the keys to a 50k mile V-Strom 650 would be anything in the vicinity of a fair shake. Although it would make for a good laugh.

    I've been told Max has (at least) one and is willing to permit test rides. I may be able to score a demo on one of these that way.

    Word has it these have not been selling well for BMW stateside.
    I suppose that's true for the whole ST segment; seems the ADV'ers have taken over.

    Quote Originally Posted by Not Sure View Post
    Plus only two more years before my bike-A.D.D. kicks in, and at that point I'll cut you a good deal on this ride.
    Not Sure I can wait that long.

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    Re: Luxo sport tourers

    Date night out in the manch. Couldn't help but notice the place of choice is 1/4 mile from MOM's. I haven't been there in a while. Can we? Can we? Can we? We CAN!
    They're now a Yamaha/Indian dealer, not the used mega store of my misspent 20's. There on the showroom is a fully spec'ed FJR1300ES.. that's the one with the electronic suspension for those left wondering. Sticker? $18.5k! Seems this is just the price for such things these days. Guess I need to get over it.

    I've started putting pennies into the new-bike-fund jar again.

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    Re: Luxo sport tourers

    *note to self.

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    Re: Luxo sport tourers

    Quote Originally Posted by nhbubba View Post
    I've started putting pennies into the new-bike-fund jar again.
    You could move the lawn mower fund over into that jar too. Just sayin.

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    Re: Luxo sport tourers

    I hear old small displacement Honda twins from the late 70's/early 80's are the hot setup for two up sports touring.

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    Re: Luxo sport tourers

    Good lord, what happened to me.
    Read reviews of the Garmin/BMW Navigator GPS gizmo this morning and thought "That's neat. Yeah, seems worth the $. Totally!"
    They are like 800 fucking dollars!

    Long, long way from a free-to-me bottom of the barrel Garmin car unit with a sandwich baggie pulled over it.

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    Re: Luxo sport tourers

    Check out Locus Maps for Android. It's not as user friendly as a Garmin, but it has a lot of the same capabilities for 100x less the price.

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    Re: Luxo sport tourers

    Quote Originally Posted by SRTie4k View Post
    Check out Locus Maps for Android. It's not as user friendly as a Garmin, but it has a lot of the same capabilities for 100x less the price.
    First problem is that I am not an Android user and likely won't be in the foreseeable future.

    Secondly.. I'm not sure you understand how nifty that navigator gadget is. It's way more than a GPS. It integrates with the bike and is a full featured data logger. Even includes shit you'll never, ever need to care about, like how many times the rider applied the brakes! But I'm a techie nerd some days. And today that nerd decides to declare that neat-o!

    Also the hardware is top shelf. Waterpoof. Bash proof. Locks to the bike. Integrates extremely well. Even serves up music through the bluetooth. I guess the new one serves up music through the bluetooth sourced from your phone. WOW!

    Not saying I'm buying. Just saying it's neat.
    8 months ago I scoffed at the guy @ work who bought a brand new GSA with that gizmo. Today I'm understanding why he done so.

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    Sounds kinda cool, although I don't trust Garmin beyond their GPS for ease-of-use after trying to fiddle with BaseCamp. Super powerful, but super unintuitive and painful to use.

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    Re: Luxo sport tourers

    Stopped in at MAX BMW in Hampton the other day after work to kick some tires. No RSs in stock. Plenty of GSes. Several fully loaded RTs. I guess the RTs aren't moving and they have several leftovers on discount. Did confirm the RT has grown too big for my tastes. They have a used R1150RT in the back with 40-something-k on the clock. That's the era RT I can handle. The new ones are just a bit too far towards the tour end of the spectrum.

    Sales guy swears the new water-jacket R motor is way mo' bettah than the oil cooled 1200's of before.. transmission too. But then I guess that's stuff sales guys say.

    He could put me on either a GS or an RT for a test ride, but no RS. Suggests the new GS is different enough from the '08 that my friend has that I should demo it. Not enthralled by the GSes though. Can't really say why. Probably has something to do with the $21k starting price.

    They did have the R1200R. Sit on either the GS or the RT then sit on the R and it's a world of different. Great ergos on the R and it is very low. I could easily flat foot. I think I want my next ride to be something I can flat foot.

    Hunt continues for an opportunity to test a 2015+ R1200RS. My interest is piqued.

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    Re: Luxo sport tourers

    Yankee Beemers breakfast was this morning, every BMW model is usually represented.

    The water cooled models are much more powerful than their predecessors.

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    Re: Luxo sport tourers

    Took her out for about 75 miles today - rode much more sport than touring.

    Just turned 3K miles and I couldn't be happier with it. Plenty fast enough, and this is from a guy coming off some much higher HP bikes. I've really figured out how to ride this thing to maximize the fun factor. Only one complaint. The center stand probably has to go as it touches down before the foot-pegs. It's a pretty abrupt pucker moment when it happens.

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    Lol. If I deleted all of the parts that scraped I wouldn't have a bike anymore .

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    Re: Luxo sport tourers

    Quote Originally Posted by Not Sure View Post
    Took her out for about 75 miles today - rode much more sport than touring.

    Just turned 3K miles and I couldn't be happier with it. Plenty fast enough, and this is from a guy coming off some much higher HP bikes. I've really figured out how to ride this thing to maximize the fun factor. Only one complaint. The center stand probably has to go as it touches down before the foot-pegs. It's a pretty abrupt pucker moment when it happens.

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    First thing I did was get rid of my center stand on my multistrada. Took it out on one ride and it touched, enough to scare me.

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    Re: Luxo sport tourers

    Quote Originally Posted by Not Sure View Post
    Just turned 3K miles and I couldn't be happier with it.
    What kind of range are you getting out of a tank? I'm seeing reports as low as 150 miles. 4.7 gal tank is a little small for anything with the "tour" label. FJR carries almost 2 more gallons of fuel!
    But then I've also seen reports of fuel mileage as high as mid 50's MPG.. that'd work out to 250-ish mile range! (Which ain't bad, yo.)

    Wife really puts up with the pillion accommodations? Or grins and bears it?

    After careful review I believe the R1200R is the same as the RS from the tank back. So I may cart my better half down to Max and ask her to climb onto the R they have on the showroom floor as a pre-screen.

    I could see dropping the center stand. So much less useful on a shaftie than a chain bike. Swap it for a rear-stand for storage and rear tire & brake service. Odd that it is standard on this bike but (now) optional on so many chain drive bikes.

    Except for the dirt-bike I have only owned one reasonably well-equipped bike; the VFR I had for a season. And that was >20 years old. The hedonistic side of me has been screaming this week.

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    Re: Luxo sport tourers

    Guy down the road from me put his Road King for sale by the street again this spring, with a little sign on it. I suspect he doesn't like craigslist. Price knocked down to 8250. Don't know what year but it looked very clean and sparkly as I was driving by (LOL). The color is on the hideous side, something purplish I think. Wish I could convince my wife to consider riding it, we'd be moto touring all over the place if she ever did, I bet...

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    Re: Luxo sport tourers

    Quote Originally Posted by nhbubba View Post
    What kind of range are you getting out of a tank? Wife really puts up with the pillion accommodations? Or grins and bears it?
    I don't pay a ton of attention to the range by tank, but I know it's around 200. Wife says with the top box + pad, and elevated seat, it is very comfy. We were coming off a K1300S so she has that to compare to. Also, unless you are dating way up in the age range I'm guessing she is 20-ish years older than your GF. Last year we did a 300 miles day to VT and back, and a 250 miles day to western MA and back. All good from her perspective.

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    Re: Luxo sport tourers

    200/tank I can live with.

    I'm not sure the age delta matters that much past a certain point. Neither she nor I are down with being bound up in a sport-bike tuck with our knees at our chins for hours on end anymore. As much as I wish it were so.

    If I'm going to drop this kind of $ on a machine it is going to be in my garage for a really long time. Trying to make sure I future proof this one, as best I can.

    Anyway. That thing seems like a winner. Nice choice and thank you for dragging my nose to it. I didn't even know it existed before visiting you the other day.

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    Re: Luxo sport tourers

    I was able to shake down the ST on the track yesterday. Big do not mean i is slow. Boy can this this thing flick on over! The bias of the suspension is obviously one of the areas that could be worked on as well as shedding the ST tires. But all in all I rode the pants off her and had a blast.

    OH BTW the big A$$ shield really messes with the speed sensation. 120+ in that bubble can sneak up on you in a hurry coming into a breaking zone!

    no gas cans needed. 150 miles to the track and home + flogging all day long = one tank = AWESOME!


    this was a great way for me to figure out the characteristics for what it can really do on the street = Really impressed!


    Things i need to adjust for more long touring comfortably =

    handle bare arrangement. bars are Helibars that are not a comfortable position for me. I'll probably need more up and back that what these bars are providing

    Seat - this seat seems to have been dished out and on the front I seem to sitting right on the plastic seat pan. On the ST forums they have bee recommending Russell Day -Lond touring Saddles.





    Common theme with the ST is a stuck (Fail open) thermostats. This reduces the MPG as the bike does not stay at operating temps on these cold days and the ECU thinks the bike is cold. I turn it adds more fuel to get things hotter when it never does. I've got to change this one out.

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    Re: Luxo sport tourers

    I can 100% recommend the Russel Day Long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheIglu View Post
    I can 100% recommend the Russel Day Long.
    Starting to wonder if you collect a referral bonus from him or something?!

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