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  • KTM 690 Enduro R (with SM trim)

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  • Husk 701 SM

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  • Keep stock hypermotard 1100evo SP

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690 vs 701 Supermoto

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    690 vs 701 Supermoto

    I still haven't made a decision yet. I think it's down to the KTM 690 Enduro R (with the purchase of some warp9 wheels) or Husk 701 SM? The intended purpose of the bike will be back roads and the occasional trackday. As I understand it, it's the exact same motor and equipment. Thanks for the input.

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    The husky already comes set up for probably the same price...sooo

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    Husky 701SM MSRP $11800 KTM 690 Enduro R MSRP $10800

    Husky 701SM has better brakes for track days and back roads.

    For your described intentions I would buy the Husky (I did) if you plan on maybe running in the dirt roads or trails with it get the 690 and a set of SM wheels

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    +3 for the 701.

    It's pretty pathetic that your only choices for a Motard are 701 or build your own. Lame.

    Is the market that narrow that nothing will sell here? With such a huge variety of other type bikes available right now I just don't get it. We want more Motards!

    Rant over, enjoy ur new bike.

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    As I understand it, the newest 701 has an updated engine with a counterbalancer which is supposedly much smoother than the 690. It also has better shocks and carries more fuel.

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    701.

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    There is also the 701 enduro.. which could also be perverted to go SM.

    If SM is in the cards I think I'd start with an SM and get a 2nd set of wheels mounted with Shinko 701's or Pirelli Scorpion Trails or something. More and more "dual-sport" like tires are getting made in 17" sized every day.

    The 701 SM is a giant pile of want as far as I'm concerned.

    I hear the problem you're going to have is availability. I hear these things are hard to get ahold of. The 701 Enduro is easier. .. So I hear.

    Quote Originally Posted by klp View Post
    It's pretty pathetic that your only choices for a Motard are 701 or build your own. Lame.
    Suzuki is still selling the DRZ400-SM! 2017 DRZ400SM : New for 2017, exciting new graphics!

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    Quote Originally Posted by nhbubba View Post




    Suzuki is still selling the DRZ400-SM! 2017 DRZ400SM : New for 2017, exciting new graphics!
    "Exciting new graphics" says it all lol. It should say "We added the 450 motor and shed 100 lbs!"

    No offense to any DRZ fans but I don't consider that bike to be in the same league as the Euro offerings.

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    Whichever one will be ready and broken in by Deal's so I can rip it.

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    701 Enduro are slightly easier to find.

    MSRP for 701 Enduro is $11300 and MSRP for 690 Enduro R is $10800 for essentially the same bike not sure where the $500 premium for the Husky comes from.

    If you can find the 701SM for $11800 or the 701 Enduro for $11300 getting the 17" SM tubeless wheels, much better brakes and the lower fork leg to make them work on the enduro would cost more than the $500 premium for getting the SM in the first place. Admittedly at the cost of not having the more dirt worthy wheels available for playing on the dirt roads if so desired.

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    Lol, the first listed factory accessory on the Husky 701 SM page is a fucking torque wrench.

    "WE INSTRUCT RIDER TO TORQUE ZEE BOLTS EVERY RIDE CAUSE SHAKEY LOOSEY BOUNCEY YA"

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    Quote Originally Posted by klp View Post
    "Exciting new graphics" says it all lol. It should say "We added the 450 motor and shed 100 lbs!"
    And a 6-speed transmission.

    Quote Originally Posted by tls25rs View Post
    MSRP for 701 Enduro is $11300 and MSRP for 690 Enduro R is $10800 for essentially the same bike not sure where the $500 premium for the Husky comes from.
    Isn't the Husky 701 mill a slight 'redesign' over the 690?

    Quote Originally Posted by tls25rs View Post
    Admittedly at the cost of not having the more dirt worthy wheels available for playing on the dirt roads if so desired.
    As I say, tons of tire options out there. A 17" 80/20 "dual-sport" tire is probably plenty bombing dirt roads.

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    Quote Originally Posted by nhbubba View Post
    Isn't the Husky 701 mill a slight 'redesign' over the 690?
    Not 100% sure on that one. The dealer I bought my 701 from made it sound like they are identical bikes for 2017 but the Husky costs more for some reason.

    It is a slight redesign over the 2016.

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    Husqvarna brought about only one change for the 2017 bike, but it’s a doozy. That's right, for 2017 it's swapped out the old 690cc engine (the one originally created for the 2012 KTM 690 Duke), for the one developed for last year’s 690 Duke.
    The revised engine is more oversquare, with a larger bore (105mm versus 102mm) and shorter stroke (80mm vs. 84.5mm). It also has a new connecting rod, piston, plain bearing, and crankshaft. Best yet? Through the second balancer shaft it offers up reduced vibrations while revving an additional 1,000 rpm, with the rev limiter now set at 9,500 rpm instead of 8,500 rpm. As with the 690 Duke, the result is an additional 5 horsepower and 4.5 lb.-ft of torque, with peak power jumping from 67 hp to 72 hp, and 49.4 lb.-ft. of torque to 54 lb.-ft of torque. While the bike certainly benefits from the added power, the real magic of the engine is the second counter balancer and how it cancels vibrations; making the 701 feel like more like a twin than a single, even intro triple-digit speeds.
    The 2017 Husqvarna 701 Supermoto Is Perfect For The Track, The Canyons, Or Daily Life | Cycle World

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    I have been obsessed with the 701 since the engine from the Duke got placed into it for '17, and the press and videos on this bike are really enticing. I reached out to all dealers within reasonable distance to NJ and the supermoto seems all but sold out at this point. I would go 701E since I have dreams of a dual purpose bike with a half hour wheel swap, but I can't get over the price tag out the door and adding warp9 wheels. If msrp was $2k less I would bite.

    To make it super useable is probably another $2k, rade expanded tank, exhaust, map commander, air box etc. The guys on the adventure rider forums say the farkles cost as much as the bike by the time you're done!

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    I don't have much to add, other than Rick can hustle his 701 around the track, and it's significantly faster than a 450 supermoto.

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    So i brought home the Husk yesterday. Put 60 miles on it so far and it seems pretty cool. I didn't realize there was no tach. Now I just need some frame sliders ASAP... any leads?

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    These were pretty my final three when choosing a bike over the last month. I went for the Ducati because I love that air cooled twin. Between the other two I would have preferred the KTM based on it having a tach and I like the look a tad better.

    I'm curious, what are the owners manual break in procedures without a tach(not that I ever follow them anyway)?

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    Quote Originally Posted by TwelveGaugeSage View Post
    These were pretty my final three when choosing a bike over the last month. I went for the Ducati because I love that air cooled twin. Between the other two I would have preferred the KTM based on it having a tach and I like the look a tad better.

    I'm curious, what are the owners manual break in procedures without a tach(not that I ever follow them anyway)?
    Under 6k RPM first 620 miles.

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    I guess they expect you to approximate the RPMs, but 6K isn't bad. The break in procedures on the Z125 are laughably ridiculous. Top speed would be around 35 mph for the first few hundred miles.

    How does it compare to the Hyper so far?

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    I rode Joel's 701 yesterday for one lap and all I can say is WOW... It's awesome

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    Quote Originally Posted by TwelveGaugeSage View Post
    I guess they expect you to approximate the RPMs, but 6K isn't bad. The break in procedures on the Z125 are laughably ridiculous. Top speed would be around 35 mph for the first few hundred miles.

    How does it compare to the Hyper so far?
    It feels lighters and is definitely smoother. The hyper has more power but hates going below 35. Hard to tell yet without really getting after it yet on the 701.

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    Quote Originally Posted by LowSider View Post
    So i brought home the Husk yesterday. Put 60 miles on it so far and it seems pretty cool. I didn't realize there was no tach. Now I just need some frame sliders ASAP... any leads?
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    701 Enduro/Supermoto: AOMC.mx

    Rick Breen has an assortment of the R&G sliders on his bike and I was thinking about buying the factory rear sliders and the fork leg protectors for mine. A couple of options for you either way.

    FYI the stock plastic skid plate from the 701 Enduro/690 Enduro will bolt right up to the 701 SM. I had it installed before I picked up the bike to double as a catch pan.

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    Quote Originally Posted by Rada View Post
    I rode Joel's 701 yesterday for one lap and all I can say is WOW... It's awesome
    You'll have to do a few more next time it is dry!

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    Re: 690 vs 701 Supermoto

    Quote Originally Posted by TwelveGaugeSage View Post
    I'm curious, what are the owners manual break in procedures without a tach(not that I ever follow them anyway)?
    Quote Originally Posted by LowSider View Post
    Under 6k RPM first 620 miles.
    Quote Originally Posted by TwelveGaugeSage View Post
    I guess they expect you to approximate the RPMs, but 6K isn't bad.
    Just ride it like you want to ride it without holding it at any particular RPM for a long period of time. Load it up, coast a bit, load it up again, run it through the gears etc. Keep the oil clean and enjoy. Biggest thing that needs to be done during break in is to get the rings to seat up against the cylinder walls.

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