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Maybe loud pipes do save lives.

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    Maybe loud pipes do save lives.

    The New York Times

    October 14, 2009

    For Safety’s Sake, Hybrid Cars May Include Artificial Vroom

    By JIM MOTAVALLI

    For decades, automakers have been on a quest to make cars quieter: an auto that purrs, and glides almost silently in traffic.

    They have finally succeeded. Plug-in hybrid and electric cars, it turns out, not only reduce air pollution, they cut noise pollution as well with their whisper-quiet motors. But that has created a different problem. They aren’t noisy enough.

    So safety experts, worried that hybrids pose a threat if pedestrians, children and others can’t hear them approaching, want automakers to supply some digitally enhanced vroom. Indeed, just as cellphones have ring tones, “car tones” may not be far behind — an option for owners of electric vehicles to choose the sound their cars emit.

    Working with Hollywood special-effects wizards, some hybrid auto companies have started tinkering in sound studios, rather than machine shops, to customize engine noises. The Fisker Karma, an $87,900 plug-in hybrid expected to go on sale next year, will emit a sound — pumped out of speakers in the bumpers — that the company founder, Henrik Fisker, describes as “a cross between a starship and a Formula One car.”

    Nissan is also consulting with the film industry on sounds that could be emitted by its forthcoming Leaf battery-electric vehicle, while Toyota has been working with the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, the National Federation of the Blind and the Society of Automotive Engineers on sounds for electric vehicles.

    “One possibility is choosing your own noise,” said Nathalie Bauters, a spokeswoman for BMW’s Mini division, who added that such technology could be added to one of BMW’s electric vehicles in the future.

    The notion that battery E.V.’s and plug-in hybrids might be too quiet has gained backing in Congress, among federal regulators and on the Internet. The Pedestrian Safety Enhancement Act of 2009, introduced early this year, would require a federal safety standard to protect pedestrians from ultra-quiet cars.

    Karen Aldana, a spokeswoman for traffic safety agency, which is also working on the issue, said, “We’re looking at data on noise and E.V. safety, but manufacturers are starting to address it voluntarily.”

    A Toyota spokesman, John Hanson, said: “I don’t know of any injuries related to this, but it is a concern. We are moving rapidly toward broader use of electrification in vehicles, and it’s a fact that these cars are very quiet and could pose a risk to unsighted people.”

    A study published last year by the University of California, Riverside and financed by the National Federation of the Blind evaluated the effect of sounds emitted by hybrid and internal-combustion cars traveling at 5 miles per hour.

    People listening in a lab could correctly detect a gas-powered car’s approach when it was 28 feet away, but could not hear the arrival of a hybrid operating in silent battery mode until it was only seven feet away.

    Some electric-vehicle drivers have taken a low-tech approach to alerting pedestrians. When Paul Scott of Santa Monica, Calif., drives his 2002 Toyota RAV4 electric car, he often rolls down the windows along busy streets and turns up his radio so people know his virtually silent vehicle is there.

    Mr. Scott, vice president of the advocacy group Plug In America, said he would prefer giving drivers control over whether the motor makes noise, unlike, say, the Fisker Karma, which will make its warning noise automatically.

    “Quiet cars need to stay quiet — we worked so hard to make them that way,” he said. “It’s the driver’s responsibility not to hit somebody.”

    Mr. Scott has already warmed up to the idea of a car ring tone.

    “It should be a manually operated noisemaker, a button on the steering wheel triggering a recording of your choice,” he said. “It could play ‘In-a-Gadda-Da-Vida,’ or anything you like.”


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    Re: Maybe loud pipes do save lives.

    Its that woo wooo!


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    Re: Maybe loud pipes do save lives.

    Its more for pedestrians guy.

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    Re: Maybe loud pipes do save lives.

    Quote Originally Posted by ilikenapalm View Post
    Its more for pedestrians guy.
    they should be makin breakfest or somethin

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    Re: Maybe loud pipes do save lives.

    Thas only in the mooooooownin

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    Re: Maybe loud pipes do save lives.

    Now we have evidence that running loud pipes contributes to community safety. Just show this article to law enforcement officers who may try to cite you for noise. Maybe you will get a commendation instead of a citation. The little old ladies who used to shake their fists at you will now wave and blow kisses. Roadblocks will be set up to catch quiet vehicles. The world will be a better place.

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    Re: Maybe loud pipes do save lives.

    i would totally choose this as my hybrid exhaust noise

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    I'm gonna make a sweet CD of BOV noises... Fast&Furious Prius!

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    Re: Maybe loud pipes do save lives.

    actually i was nearly squashed by a prius in "stealth mode" while in a parking lot. fourtunatly my buddy pulled me out of the way. i never heard it comming and the chick driving was head down fiddling with her ipod, cell phone, or something.

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    Re: Maybe loud pipes do save lives.

    It’s the driver’s responsibility not to hit somebody.
    Also the pedestrian's responsibility not to walk into oncoming traffic.

    It should be a manually operated noisemaker, a button on the steering wheel triggering a recording of your choice
    Great idea! Tell ya what, try getting in your car today and pushing the center of the steering wheel...see what happens.

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