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    Quote Originally Posted by CBR929RE View Post
    so you feel riding on the wrong side of the road is the correct thing to do rather than just slowing down a touch to stay on the correct side. you even say you weren't going that fast so really there's no reason to cross it. and if any part of your vehicle crosses the line then you have crossed the line. if you put a 6 foot 2x4 off the side of your bike and it crosses the line then you crossed the line. every part of your vehicle it to remain in its lane. why is this so hard to understand. (that's a rhetorical question)
    Dude, are you a LEO or Ralph Nader or something.....Jeeze, relax!!! I crossed the double yellow because I really could care less (in these circumstances) if I did or not. I gave you reasons why---could care less if you accept them or not!
    Do you obey every law because it's the law? Period! Man, I hope not or this world is in a lot of trouble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tricklidz View Post
    T**** Rd.
    *****DOUBLE YELLOW LINE ALERT*******
    I crossed the DY a total of 6 times in the following video---I counted!!
    Please note: Camera is mounted 2ft. to the left (when viewed from seat) of center line of motorcycle. So when yellow line is in the center of screen I am 2 ft. to the inside of the line!!

    Carry on.......
    and what's the reasoning why it was more than 1? the 1 being passing the pickup, he was messing up your ride and I get that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tricklidz View Post
    Dude, are you a LEO or Ralph Nader or something.....Jeeze, relax!!! I crossed the double yellow because I really could care less (in these circumstances) if I did or not. I gave you reasons why---could care less if you accept them or not!
    Do you obey every law because it's the law? Period! Man, I hope not or this world is in a lot of trouble.
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    if you wanna know I'm a professional driver. I just can't understand why you refuse to be a safer rider. my objections aren't really because its illegal. if you read my posts you'd get that I said there are times when I feel its perfectly fine to cross the double yellow. if you want the road to be as straight as possible why don't just ride on straights roads?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CBR929RE View Post
    if you wanna know I'm a professional driver. I just can't understand why you refuse to be a safer rider. my objections aren't really because its illegal. if you read my posts you'd get that I said there are times when I feel its perfectly fine to cross the double yellow. if you want the road to be as straight as possible why don't just ride on straights roads?
    Did you see any place in those videos where I was UNSAFE??? And not because I crossed lines in the road, because I still fail to see what that has to do with safety!!

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    Please explain "professional driver"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tricklidz View Post
    Did you see any place in those videos where I was UNSAFE??? And not because I crossed lines in the road, because I still fail to see what that has to do with safety!!

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    Please explain "professional driver"
    is it not less safe to ride over stuff that has less traction than the pavement? sorry I didn't know they put down some new super grippy type lines on those roads. my bad.

    I drive a tractor trailer.

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    Have you ridden those roads?
    Do you ride a motorcycle on the street?
    Do you ride the speed limit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tricklidz View Post
    Have you ridden those roads?
    Do you ride a motorcycle on the street?
    Do you ride the speed limit?
    nope
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    the last few years I did ride on the road I did ride closer to the speed limit than I did before I started track riding.



    what does any of that have to do with knowing to stay on the right side of the line?

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    Re: Mystery Road??

    Quote Originally Posted by CBR929RE View Post
    is it not less safe to ride over stuff that has less traction than the pavement? sorry I didn't know they put down some new super grippy type lines on those roads. my bad.

    I drive a tractor trailer.
    Brett. By riding more towards the center of the road when the coast is clear you make the corner straighter which in turn decreases lean angle. Decreasing the lean angle increases the size of the contact patch and therefore gives you more traction while cornering at any speed. If something was to pop up while cornering it would actually be safer to take his line. Just saying.

    While it may not be ideal to cross the yellow line, it can actually improve safety if done correctly and safely..

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    Quote Originally Posted by csmutty View Post
    Brett. By riding more towards the center of the road when the coast is clear you make the corner straighter which in turn decreases lean angle. Decreasing the lean angle increases the size of the contact patch and therefore gives you more traction while cornering at any speed. If something was to pop up while cornering it would actually be safer to take his line. Just saying.

    While it may not be ideal to cross the yellow line, it can actually improve safety if done correctly and safely..
    you'd be correct if he was going a lot faster and was at the edge of the tires. He was already riding at a very safe speed and any lean angle he would have had in the sections he crossed the line would not have had much if any affect on the contact patch of his tires. this ain't track riding and not even fast road riding. the speeds he was going and skills I think we can safely say he possesses would mean he could have avoided stuff just as well had he stayed in his lane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CBR929RE View Post
    you'd be correct if he was going a lot faster. He was already riding at a very safe speed and any lean angle he would have had in the sections he crossed the line would not have had much if any affect on the contact patch of his tires. this ain't track riding and not even fast road riding. the speeds he was going and skills I think we can safely say he possesses would mean he could have avoided stuff just as well had he stayed in his lane.
    Not true. If you have less lean angle you have more traction for braking, can avoid obstacles better, etc.

    And if he was at a safe speed would it not be fair to assume that if he did see traffic coming that it would be effortless to turn back into the lane?

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    Quote Originally Posted by csmutty View Post
    Not true. If you have less lean angle you have more traction for braking, can avoid obstacles better, etc.

    And if he was at a safe speed would it not be fair to assume that if he did see traffic coming that it would be effortless to turn back into the lane?
    dude, he's only a few degrees from full vertical. that shit isn't an issue.

    anyone being in the oncoming lane is not the issue. why is staying in the lane so fucking hard for people to understand?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CBR929RE View Post
    dude, he's only a few degrees from full vertical. that shit isn't an issue.

    anyone being in the oncoming lane is not the issue. why is staying in the lane so fucking hard for people to understand?
    Why is it so much of a problem for you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by csmutty View Post
    Why is it so much of a problem for you?
    because it annoys the shit out of me. It's been happening a lot the last few weeks and just seems to be getting worse. granted its been cars I keep seeing doing it, not bikes. its just retarded that people can't keep these little vehicles inside the lane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OreoGaborio View Post
    Here we go again....
    Called it. Post 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tricklidz View Post
    Yes.
    And it gives more safety room on either side for critters, driveways, etc.
    Less road debris- oil, etc.
    Quicker passing with less movement.
    When in traffic, out of veh blind spots.
    Many more reasons....

    And yet I think the MSF would disagree...

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    Friggin Double Yellow Line Nazi's!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OreoGaborio View Post
    Called it. Post 3.
    Yep. And I'm sorry for bringing it up in the first place!

    Though since I did, here's my personal perspective on it: Lanes of traffic exist for a reason. Ignoring them is fundamentally a selfish act, whether there's oncoming traffic or not. Furthermore, the double yellow line, as CBR929RE has pointed out, is notoriously slippery when wet or even a little damp, and the last thing I want to do is cross over it when I'm leaned over even a little. I view that line as an obstacle, not a suggestion. And finally, when you're riding a twisty road, the point is to enjoy the twisty road, not to post the fastest time. So why would you want to straighten out the corners in the first place? The road is not a race track.

    There. That's my opinion on it, and I state it not to argue with anyone but just to explain my original reasoning for making the comment that unfortunately started all this. Now back to your regular scheduled forum shitfight...

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    I need to head up that way and hit some of the northern NY roads. I'll make sure not to record it and post it here, though.

    FWIW, some of you guys will make excellently stereotypical parents with the never-ending, dry lectures you give.

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    So what have we all learned from this thread:

    NEVER POST RIDE VIDEOS

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    Quote Originally Posted by FriskyDingo View Post
    So what have we all learned from this thread:

    NEVER POST RIDE VIDEOS
    Post em, just be on your best behavior. Or in other words ride appropriately

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    Quote Originally Posted by FriskyDingo View Post
    So what have we all learned from this thread:

    NEVER POST RIDE VIDEOS
    Or just stop giving a shit when people on the internet criticize you.

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    I can see both sides of this, but you line crossers need to calm down with your defense of the act. One thing to realize is there are A LOT of new & potential riders lurking sites like this & when you hammer people who advocate staying in your own lane, all you're doing is giving them an excuse to point to for their own poor riding. The goal should be to stay in your own lane. Then when you get to a point where you've got the skill to efficiently use the whole road, by all means have at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KnuckleBallz View Post
    I can see both sides of this, but you line crossers need to calm down with your defense of the act. One thing to realize is there are A LOT of new & potential riders lurking sites like this & when you hammer people who advocate staying in your own lane, all you're doing is giving them an excuse to point to for their own poor riding. The goal should be to stay in your own lane. Then when you get to a point where you've got the skill to efficiently use the whole road, by all means have at it.
    But the goal isn't to use the whole road, and you shouldn't be going at a speed on public roads where that is necessary. The point of this is that when I ride I feel a liberty where I am not bound to anything. So if I feel that I want to cross into the other lane when it will not impact others, have at it. Just like weaving. When going down straight road I often like to weave back and forth to occupy my time and to decrease flat spotting the tire. But if there is oncoming traffic I will stop weaving so as to not startle others or create an accident if I make a mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KnuckleBallz View Post
    I can see both sides of this, but you line crossers need to calm down with your defense of the act. One thing to realize is there are A LOT of new & potential riders lurking sites like this & when you hammer people who advocate staying in your own lane, all you're doing is giving them an excuse to point to for their own poor riding. The goal should be to stay in your own lane. Then when you get to a point where you've got the skill to efficiently use the whole road, by all means have at it.
    I agree. I was barely over the line. There was NO traffic. I'm NOT a beginner.

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    I've watched the vid again. And all I can say is- all bitching about the lane violations---REALLY?

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