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    Lidar accuracy aimed at a bike?

    I just got a ticket for doing 83 in a 50. But I didn't get pulled over until after I hit a traffic light, waited, and made a left turn. He showed up about a minute and a half later.. Should I challenge it?

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    Re: Lidar accuracy aimed at a bike?

    Bump... you know what.. fuck it.. who knows a good lawyer? I'm gonna put them on the hot seat this time..

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    Re: Lidar accuracy aimed at a bike?

    Quote Originally Posted by mlarivie View Post
    I just got a ticket for doing 83 in a 50. But I didn't get pulled over until after I hit a traffic light, waited, and made a left turn. He showed up about a minute and a half later.. Should I challenge it?
    maybe u were going so fast that it took the cop a minute & a half just to catch up to u

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    Re: Lidar accuracy aimed at a bike?

    im guessing lidar is laser radar?

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    Re: Lidar accuracy aimed at a bike?

    If it was in fact a patrol car, you were more than likely linked in with video - actually photographing your violation in the act. Be careful what you ask for you may end of with driving to endanger?

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    Re: Lidar accuracy aimed at a bike?

    Quote Originally Posted by mlarivie View Post
    I just got a ticket for doing 83 in a 50. But I didn't get pulled over until after I hit a traffic light, waited, and made a left turn. He showed up about a minute and a half later.. Should I challenge it?
    Were you speeding?

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    Re: Lidar accuracy aimed at a bike?

    Fight it.

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    Re: Lidar accuracy aimed at a bike?

    sucks... good luck

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    Re: Lidar accuracy aimed at a bike?

    Dont you know that when ever you are doing 33 over the posted speed limit you should always look behind you when you come to a stop for what ever reason.

    Please keep us in the loop on how this one turns out.

    Quote Originally Posted by mlarivie View Post
    I just got a ticket for doing 83 in a 50. But I didn't get pulled over until after I hit a traffic light, waited, and made a left turn. He showed up about a minute and a half later.. Should I challenge it?

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    Re: Lidar accuracy aimed at a bike?

    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post
    Were you speeding?
    I just blasted off onto rt 9 more or less to get the bike up to warm idle, it was a lazy 1/3-1/2 throttle run up to about 85 and a fast decel after. When I got clocked I was a few seconds into the decel. I didnt look at the speedo i was probably going around 70 when he 'clocked' me.. It's more or less the exhaust sound of than the speed I was going I think. He did not ask me if I knew why he pulled me over, go figure.. caught him on a good day.

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    Re: Lidar accuracy aimed at a bike?

    Quote Originally Posted by mlarivie View Post
    I just blasted off onto rt 9 more or less to get the bike up to warm idle, it was a lazy 1/3-1/2 throttle run up to about 85 and a fast decel after. When I got clocked I was a few seconds into the decel. I didnt look at the speedo i was probably going around 70 when he 'clocked' me.. It's more or less the exhaust sound of than the speed I was going I think. He did not ask me if I knew why he pulled me over, go figure.. caught him on a good day.
    Abridged version = YES, I was doing 85 in a 50.

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    Re: Lidar accuracy aimed at a bike?

    Quote Originally Posted by SteveM View Post
    Abridged version = YES, I was doing 85 in a 50.
    Well case and point I was not speeding at the point in time he had evidence to prove so. Dont you need distance to prove someones speed - an 8th of a mile to prove someones speed per 90-17, but does that apply to 90-18?

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    Re: Lidar accuracy aimed at a bike?

    Quote Originally Posted by mlarivie View Post
    Dont you need distance to prove someones speed - an 8th of a mile to prove someones speed per 90-17, but does that apply to 90-18?
    What????

    You don't need shit if you've got a radar gun pointed at someone/thing. It gives the object's speed nearly instantaneously.

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    Re: Lidar accuracy aimed at a bike?

    "Pacing" or other average speed estimation methods require distance.

    Lidar shoots an IR pulse at the vehicle and times how long it take for the signal to come back. By taking several pulse measurements, the speed of the vehicle can be calculated quite accurately from the changes in the time to return the pulse.

    I'm not a fan of tickets, but don't wander blindly into fighting this without exspert advice, you could end up owing more than the original ticket.

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    Re: Lidar accuracy aimed at a bike?

    I could care less about paying the fine- so what I got caught, but dont want the insurance points..

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    Re: Lidar accuracy aimed at a bike?

    If you have a decent record get a court date and talk to the officer. He might be willing to at least lower your speed. If you get real lucky he won't show.

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    Re: Lidar accuracy aimed at a bike?

    Quote Originally Posted by SteveM View Post
    don't wander blindly into fighting this without exspert advice, you could end up owing more than the original ticket.
    I have been threatened by this one before and don't understand it. How does one go into court to fight a complaint of "A" and wind up guilty of "B"? Just curious of how the legal system can do this to an individual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mlarivie View Post
    I could care less about paying the fine- so what I got caught, but dont want the insurance points..

    I get your point. It does suck.

    1. Don't do the deed without being willing to pay the fine.
    2. Don't get caught for momentary lapses of reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveM View Post
    don't wander blindly into fighting this without exspert advice, you could end up owing more than the original ticket.
    I have been threatened by this one before and don't understand it. How does one go into court to fight a complaint of "A" and wind up guilty of "B"? Just curious of how the legal system can do this to an individual.
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    A: 330 dollar ticket
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    B: court fees lawyer fees and the ticket if you lose

    In mass you meet with a majestrate first, dress propper and dont go with the bs story of getting your bike up to idle. 85 is still 85 anyway you slice it.

    I got out of a 95 in a 55, if your driving record is good, go with that.

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    Re: Lidar accuracy aimed at a bike?

    I got a speeding ticket in my car a few years ago, went in to fight it, the officer pulled me aside before court started. He gave me the option to pay 75 dollars for court fees, and take an online driving class thing which takes a little under an hour and costs 30? dollars. After I did this the whole incident disappeared.

    I would opt for that if I were you, but talk to a lawyer and see if you can even do this in MA, my speeding ticket happened in NH.

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    Re: Lidar accuracy aimed at a bike?

    Quote Originally Posted by tdiloren View Post
    If you have a decent record get a court date and talk to the officer. He might be willing to at least lower your speed. If you get real lucky he won't show.
    Doesn't work like that in Mass .

    You contest a ticket you 1st go see a magistrate.

    It's the Commonwealth....

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    Re: Lidar accuracy aimed at a bike?

    Maybe you could suck dick to get out of it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WordTooYoMamma View Post
    um...
    A: 330 dollar ticket
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    Sorry, I meant the idea that you could walk in to fight a speeding ticket and somehow walk out with a "reckless" or "driving to endanger" conviction.

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    Re: Lidar accuracy aimed at a bike?

    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post
    Were you speeding?
    speeding? what's that?
    does it have something to do with those signs on the side of the road with funny numbers on them?

    i don't get it?


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    Re: Lidar accuracy aimed at a bike?

    Quote Originally Posted by sandman View Post
    speeding? what's that?
    does it have something to do with those signs on the side of the road with funny numbers on them?

    i don't get it?


    sounds like he met the highwayman

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