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    i have found that honda civic filter fits zx10r. more choices. how cool is that not having to hassle to kawasaki store every time?

    i have a new k&n gsxr filter if anyoen wants it. it was bought for an 06 but it looks bigger so it was never used.

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    Re: oil filter

    How many car filters did you try before figuring that out?

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    Re: oil filter

    Quote Originally Posted by Manny View Post
    How many car filters did you try before figuring that out?
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    Re: oil filter

    Quote Originally Posted by Kham View Post
    i have found that honda civic filter fits zx10r. more choices. how cool is that not having to hassle to kawasaki store every time?

    i have a new k&n gsxr filter if anyoen wants it. it was bought for an 06 but it looks bigger so it was never used.
    what years on the Civic?

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    Re: oil filter

    Corss-Reference Chart
    I've used this chart for all my bikes to date

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    Re: oil filter

    http://www.wixfilters.com/filterlookup/motorcycle.asp

    You can just choose a Wix filter, never a bad choice, or X-ref the Wix part number with another manufacturer.

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    Re: oil filter

    Quote Originally Posted by McBiggity View Post
    Corss-Reference Chart
    I've used this chart for all my bikes to date

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    Re: oil filter

    damn i just realized, they are all the same size between cbr, r1, r6, zx, etc.

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    Re: oil filter

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheppo View Post
    what years on the Civic?
    01 civic

    i've using m1-110 so it's right there in the chart.

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    Re: oil filter

    just cause the filter "fits" doesn't mean you should use it, many filters have built in relieve valves that may not open at the correct oil pressure

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    Re: oil filter

    Quote Originally Posted by RandyO View Post
    just cause the filter "fits" doesn't mean you should use it, many filters have built in relieve valves that may not open at the correct oil pressure
    I agree with this one. I'm all for getting a filter that's labeled as compatible with your exact make/model bike. Buying it because it was cheap and it screws on doesn't mean it's the right part for the job.

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    Re: oil filter

    Quote Originally Posted by RandyO View Post
    just cause the filter "fits" doesn't mean you should use it, many filters have built in relieve valves that may not open at the correct oil pressure
    that's what the PSI# on the chart is for. the general consense is that we change oil before winter. so as far as im concern any fuckin cheap one will do. except for oil, im stuck with $10/qt synthetic. am i wrong?

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    Re: oil filter

    i think i'll go with this next summer.

    "the mobil 1 m1-108 according to the reasearch i have found opens at 11-17psi
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    Re: oil filter

    you're right Randy, here's a warning from a harley guy trying to use mobile 1 filter. why was he trying to use mobile 1?




    "Jeffytune27th May 2005, 03:57
    Hi all.

    OK, as we have ben talking about oil filters lately, I now have more info that I need to tell you all, and hopefully i can save you engine.

    I have ben searching the web for a Mobil 1 oil filter for my bike, but I was not able to find a listing in a Catalog, just a couple web pages that showed two different numbers, a M1-102 and a M1-301.
    I tried a M1-102(Cost me 10.95) and I started the engine, I notice that the pressure was 5 to 10 pounds higher then before with the Wix.
    Harleys oil pressure port in between the pump and the filter, so the reading is BEFORE it gets into the filter, so the higher reading was because the filter was restrickive.
    I also looked into the oil tank to see if it was flowing, the flow was very slow, after a short ride, the engine was hot, but the oil was not getting hot.
    So I shut it down, and replace the filter again with a Wix 51215.

    I called up Mobil and asked if I had the wrong filter, they told me that they do not sell motorcycle filters, and were not sure if it would work on my bike. They do not make these filters, so he gave me the number for Champion filters(They make Mobiles filters, and STP's).
    I got to talk to one of there engineers, and this is what he told me.

    Do not use this filter on a motorcycle. It does not have the right by-pass or flow rate, and if it damages your engine, you are on your own.
    He then suggested the STP motorcycle filter as a sutable one.

    After work today, I had a chance to talk with a tech friend of mine, Harley Bob at Paridice Harley. He not only has 45 years as a harley Mechanic, he has a 2001 1200s that he drag races, and runs high 10's, he I trust.
    I asked him about this filter and this what he told me.

    If a bike comes in with non harley filter and has a engine failure, they will check the filter numberm if it is not a Motorcycle filter, they can, and most likely will cancil the warranty.
    The uses of a Automotive filter is outside of that fed law that lets you use an aftermarket filter, You can only if it is oked for that vehical.

    Lastly, my Fram rep called on me, and had a CH6065a in hand, and we cut it open at work this lunch, you may remember that I told him my disapointment with my last filter, well, the chrome one(The CH6065A is the chrome one) still has all metal cap ends a a good solid well spaced filter eliment, so this is not what I have seen on those web sight, he said there showing there budjet filters, use the chrome ones and you should be ok.

    The bottom line is, don't beleive these web sights as they can leed you down the wrong road, and don't use a car filter on your bike, If it costs you a engine, you will be all aloan with a dead motor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stoinkythepig View Post
    http://www.wixfilters.com/filterlookup/motorcycle.asp

    You can just choose a Wix filter, never a bad choice, or X-ref the Wix part number with another manufacturer.

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    Re: oil filter

    Buy a stock one who cares

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    Old days if you bought Factory stuff like oil filters you got the worst stuff at the highest price. Seeking alternatives made sense both in quality and price

    I don't think that applies to japanese stuff espescially bikes

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    I use one a year and put 1 in stock anytime I order from bike parts etc.
    I might save $5 a year.... While I put in my 35 of synthetic oil.

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    Re: oil filter

    just so you know i started using frame car filter for winter oil change couple yrs a go. started up for 5-10 minutes... temp went up to same point... fan kicked in... temp went down... all is well.

    it has always been oem filter for summer hard riding. i think i'll try mobile 1 this summer... same fuckin price and if engine temps dont change like the harley, i dont see why it would hurt anything.

    looks like cbr has lower psi from the chart.

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    Re: oil filter

    I am sure Harleys count on oil/oil cooler for heat dissipation
    not important for water cooled bikes.

    I am unsure about pressure regulator in oil filters. It would seem very chancy to leave the oil pressure issue to the oil filter but maybe the case.

    I am ignorant of this

    Or is the pressure just the filter element by=pass popping off ?

    I do like the info for my cars though

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    Re: oil filter

    yes rich, the pressure stated is the bypass pressure. the differential between incoming (dirty) and outgoing (clean) oil pressures at the filter.

    if that value gets too high, the bypass opens to maintain oil flow, even if it is dirty.

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