Want Pazzo / CRG knock offs that are REALLY nice and CHEAP?

[schleppy]

Then look up Fire Dragon Brothers on EBay and go get a set!

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The ones I bought are all black shorty style, and here is a link to the seller:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...K%3AMEWNX%3AIT

They fit like a glove on my FZ1, and I couldn't be happier for $50 shipped. Shipping took a week and a day (had to come from China), but that's acceptable. The seller was also very quick to reply to any questions I had.

Long story short, go buy them!

[Jim]

i'd love to hear the review on the knock-off front wave rotors

[Degsy]

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i'd love to hear the review on the knock-off front wave rotors

Don't knock the Chinese rotors yet Jimmy. They discovered fire a while back and there isn't some special iron mine in Italy where brake rotor iron can only be mined. I would say in 2 years lots of people will be racing on Chinese rotors. Times are changing.

[Kurlon]

Don't knock the Chinese rotors yet Jimmy. They discovered fire a while back and there isn't some special iron mine in Italy where brake rotor iron can only be mined. I would say in 2 years lots of people will be racing on Chinese rotors. Times are changing.

Who says we aren't already?

[R1]

i'd love to hear the review on the knock-off front wave rotors

ask and you shall receive...

gary likes em

YouTube - Gary's Mattress Commercial

[DuncanMoto]

The saddest part is that copyright has been violated without any recourse to Chinese companies.
This type of thing is a huge part of why our economy is so screwed up right now.
People, companies, capitol, ideas, engineering and jobs will be lost over this product.
It is theft at the highest level.
It just keeps happening over and over.

[R1]

China does not recognize any of our patent or copyright laws, and because we have continued to say boo and buy up huge amounts of these products through walmart and good quality knockoffs in the malls and online the amount of money involved is so substantial it will not benefit them or us to enforce the issue...

id chock it up at a loss and stop having them produce shit you don't want them to steal.

[DuncanMoto]

I think we should start an import tax on them just like we have with every other country in the world.

[Degsy]

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It's a bit much to ask them not to copy a motorcycle lever. It's a lever shaped thing made of metal that your fingers go around. Tough to patent I would say. Not saying counterfeiting isn't an issue but I think the lever is a pretty basic design. It's like telling them they can make a wheel any shape they like but round,like good old American wheels.

[schleppy]

Ted/Keith, I didn't want to start anything negative from this. I just wanted to let people know that there is an alternative to the other levers out there.

[schleppy]

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It's a bit much to ask them not to copy a motorcycle lever. It's a lever shaped thing made of metal that your fingers go around. Tough to patent I would say. Not saying counterfeiting isn't an issue but I think the lever is a pretty basic design. It's like telling them they can make a wheel any shape they like but round,like good old American wheels.

Agreed. Aren't Pazzos and CRG levers REALLY similar? I'm assuming one didn't pay the other to license the design (though I could be wrong).

[Degsy]

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I think we should start an import tax on them just like we have with every other country in the world.

Or get a time machine and stop the unions thy are the cause of a lever costing more than $5 in the first place.

[Degsy]

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But that's reeeaaalllly stretching it. I know. I should never have mentioned unions.

[DuncanMoto]

Agreed. Aren't Pazzos and CRG levers REALLY similar? I'm assuming one didn't pay the other to license the design (though I could be wrong).

They are similar, but at least they are not exact laser measured copies.
They're different in several ways including the way they anodize and the way they connect the perch block to the lever.
And at least both companies carry liability insurance and test all their fitments.

Buying CRG supports real racers in the USA. (people like you)
Buying Pazzo supports real racers from Canada. (people like you, just with funny accents.)
Buying Chinese knock offs supports slave labor in communist country that pays 50 cents per hour and makes the workers live on site and work 16 hour days.

[DuncanMoto]

Now I sound like my grandfather telling me to buy a Ford instead of a Volkswagon as my first car.

[schleppy]

Now I sound like my grandfather telling me to buy a Ford instead of a Volkswagon as my first car.

Get off my lawn!!

[Charlief]

China is the new powerhouse when it comes to manufactured goods.

A good friend of mine took a job there 2 years ago to become Director of R&D for his company. He also oversees quality control. Years ago if a container of goods came in.... Maybe 1/3 of it would be out of spec. Now we are talking low single digit rejects on a production run.

My friends contract was up and he chose to stay in China. I would have too... His lifestyle is one that you could only dream about. I'm a little jealous.... LOL

As a 6' blonde with blue eyes.... He has one hell of a social life over there.

[Degsy]

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Now I sound like my grandfather telling me to buy a Ford instead of a Volkswagon as my first car.

Which fed the unions and quadrupled the price of American goods.

[R1]

Ted/Keith, I didn't want to start anything negative from this. I just wanted to let people know that there is an alternative to the other levers out there.

i am not basking your thread buddy, i think those levers are awesome and if i liked shorties i would not be opposed to buying a set....

Get off my lawn!!

easy there old man

[R1]

Agreed. Aren't Pazzos and CRG levers REALLY similar? I'm assuming one didn't pay the other to license the design (though I could be wrong).

CRG came first if i am correct

They are similar, but at least they are not exact laser measured copies.
They're different in several ways including the way they anodize and the way they connect the perch block to the lever.
And at least both companies carry liability insurance and test all their fitments.

Buying CRG supports real racers in the USA. (people like you)
Buying Pazzo supports real racers from Canada. (people like you, just with funny accents.)
Buying Chinese knock offs supports slave labor in communist country that pays 50 cents per hour and makes the workers live on site and work 16 hour days.

I wouldnt go as far as to say slave labor considering their standard of living is exponentially lower due to the newness of their economy and the large disparity in incomes...

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Which fed the unions and quadrupled the price of American goods.

I am curious, what does the UK have in place in terms of unions for their automotive manufacturing?

[Kenn157]

The Stinger has Pazzo's Thank you DuncanMoto

But I think the Speed Triple might just go Chinese.

[Degsy]

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Unions

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Unions

Greed

[The Snowman]

Should I send mine back? I have the Chinese knock-offs on my SV and Annalisa's 900RR, but have Pazzos on the 1000RR. I honestly can't tell the difference.

I got the knock-offs for the SV because there might be a time when the bike will be sliding across the pavement again and I won't be as upset over a $47 set of levers.

Rideitmoto.com levers on the SV:







eBay store Helmet At All:

[R7]

Or get a time machine and stop the unions thy are the cause of a lever costing more than $5 in the first place.

Then people will have no choice but to buy made in china products...that is if they can afford to even have a bike..or a car...or a roof over their head